Subcontracting Challan Reconcillation

Dear All,
Please help me out in following issue.
We are sending 'X' raw material for producing Y components ( say 1 X = 1000 Y).
But unfortunately,our vendor is not able to send accurate 1000 components.
BOM is defined for 1000 Y components.
He is sending 990 or 995 something which leads to incomplete reconcillation.
Tell me how can I reconcille it to get ok report J1IFR.
Is there any movement tupe for material scrapped at vendor end.
Help me out.
Thanks & regards
Gitesh

Hi Prashant,
The balace components laying at vendor end without processing.
Because of some practical measures.
So when i wll use 542 or 545 which component should be inwarded X or Y.
So that I can get full proof J1IFR.
Thanks in advance,
Regards
Gitesh

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We are getting the following message while reconciling Subcontract challans " Material XXXX is not assigned fully , short by X nos ". Is it because if we post a single GR referencing two Purchase orders for same vendor with two different challans , will it be a problem during reconcillation ? since while sending components to vendor we create single challan wrt to 541 mat document.
Thanks in advance
Benny

Hi All,
After testing in quality system , i found that if GR 105 mvt type was done w.r.t two different purchase orders for same vendor referencing two challans , the system issues the error message " " Material XXXX is not assigned fully , short by X nos " while trying tor reconcille in J1IFQ.
Is this a standard SAP behaviour ?
So for validation purpose i cancelled the 105 mat doc and posted two different GR's referencing two challans and i was able to reconcile successfully.
Any idea if the challan reconcillation will work only for one to one combination and i.e., one PO and its 541 mat doc /challan and one 101/105 mat doc.
Kindly let me know if you have come across this cases.
Thanks
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Re -Reconcillation of subcontracting challan against "102" mov type mat doc

Dear All,
While we are doing the reconcilliation of the Material document (mov type-"102" ) against the subcontracting challan (ALREADY fully reconcilled against 101 material document, but not compeleted), then system is NOT allowing us to do the reconcillation, requirement is to reduce the qty assignment in already reconcilled challan, as we have reversed the material document
1.) When we have assigned the 102 movement type to movement type group to 0001( Issue movement type group)
then system is giving an error message : 8I567-Challan not valid, Material doc. is valid for another scenario during J1IFQ.
2.) and when we are assigning the 102 movement type to movement type group 0002( Receipt movement type group) , then system gives error message : 8I574 -Material XXX is not assigned fully, short by YYY KG
Please suggest the right way of doing it.
Thanks & Regards
Nitin Chhabra

Hi
If a challan is reconciled it should not be opened again. That is illegal. You need to do subsequent adjustment if you want to alter your consumption in subcontract. If you do 102 and reverse your consumed material,You need to include 544 movement type in your movement type grouping then You need to create a new 45a challan.
Regards
Antony

Reconcillation of subcontracting challan

hi every body
my problem is about reconcillation of subcontracting challan.
let 10 kg material named A is to be manufatured by 16 kg of material B. NOW i created a sub contracting po ,541 tranfer posting, j1if01subcontracting challan, then i do good receipt fpr 10 kg A material and assign the subcontacting chhalan to the good receipt.now quality department reject 5 kg A MATERIAL FROM 10 KG A material and send 5 kg A material to the vendor with movement type 122. with this also 8 kg of material B is also returned with movement type 544 with stock provided to vendor o .
now when we chack with MBLB 8 kg of material B is with subcontractor.now when we reconcile quantity with J1IFQ .
it shows and give the warning massage that 8 KGof B MATERAIL is short.it does not allowed to save
however 8 kg of material B is with subcontractor tehn it should be reconcilled with rest of 8 kg of B material. why it does not save. is this problem of patches. please give solution this is urgent requirement.points will be rewarded.

I want to give it an attempt
while reciving the mat A total 16KG of B is issued, so stock of B is reduced by 16 KG.
Now you did 350 & 122 for rejection and dispatch of mat. A with 5 KG that means for Mat B 8 KG made, so we get 8 KG of B back ( which is in vendor place)
but while doing reconcilation the stock of B is required which is shot by 8 KG. let teh cycle to complet means recive the repaired the material A then do reconcilation. system will not so this error.
simutate in test once to check it now as it seems you r in hurry.
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Sub contracting challan reconcillation

Hi Friends,
I am doing the subcontracting for sales order
1. I have created the po with account assignment E
2. Transferred the material from main store to sub contracting store
3. created sub contracting challan
3. created goods reciept and in that i have given reference of sub contracting challan
4. now i want to do the reconcillation , but system is giving error message as " challan material is different from material document..
so please suggest , what i have to do? please reply....

Hi
Since you are transfering the material to subcontracting store, which is under your premises.You cannot do a reconsiltion.
If you have seprate subcontractor ,then its possible to do the reconsilation.
follow the below procedure subcontracting for sale order :
1.created the po with account assignment E
2. Issue the material to Subcontractor by creating a new mvt type 541 E. You cannot issue the sale order stock to subcontractor with 541 mvt.
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Report J1IFR is country specific report of SAP it is not the Standard Report for every country.
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Pl guide me how to print the subcontract challan after reconcillation.
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Hi,
Check in SPRO > Logistics - General > Tax on Goods Movements > India > Business Transactions > Subcontracting > Subcontracting Attributes > Check whether Subcon Output Type - J1IF is maintained here.
Also check in M706 - For Output Type - J1IF, under "Print" Tab Page, what is the Print param., if it is "7 Plant/storage location" then go to OMJ3 and mainatin the entry with J1IF/Plant/Storage location (keep it blank if all the sto locs of plant are to be considered)/Output Device/Name/Print Immediately/Release after output
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***How subcontracting challan is manged in multilevel subcontracting process??
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Here - how the subcontracting challan is managed?? please guide.

Hi,
The challan is also widely known as the 57F4 challan, after the law under which it was defined up until the 2000 budget. This law has now been superceded by a new one, 57AC. The challan consists of a header and line items. The header, in addition to T-code is J1IF01 to create subcontracting challan. organizational data, allows you to enter:
Preprinted number
Additional data
Identification marks
Nature of processing
Furthermore, each challan has two numbers, an internal document number and a challan number, which the system assigns to the challan when you save it. From a business perspective, this is the most important number. Each challan also has a status, which shows you what stage in processing it is at.
The line items are copied across from the transfer posting when you create the challan. You can also enter additional data for each item
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Sub Contractor challan Reconcillation after subsequent adjustment

Dear Friends,
I am sending 1 kg of material to receive back 1kg of material the sub contractor uses .90 kg to make 1 kg of the reqd material. So I do subsequent adjustment after MIGO for under consumption of 0.10kg
Now after doing subsequent adjustment, while doing reconciliation in J1ifq should I change the assigned qty to 0.90 kg ( as there was under consumption of 0.1kg ), I tried changing the assigned qty to 0.900 but its showing me the message u201Cmaterial xxx is not fully assigned, short by 0.10 kg& itu2019s not letting me reconcile.
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Thanks

Hello,
Please check the process supported by SAP for
subcontracting with and without duty payment in the following link:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60/helpdata/en/09/ebf138cdd78a4be10000000
a114084/frameset.htm
It is quite helpful for challan reconciliation issues.
Keep in mid that for challan subcontrating you should perform the
following steps:
1) Create Sub contracting PO
2) Create MB1B ( 541 mov)
3) Create Challan from J1IF01 with reference to material document
4) Create GR using MIGO sub cont PO. ( faced error )
Please be ensure that the following note is already applied in your
system:
1423896 - The subcontracting challan validation - MIGO
Please chek if you have set the movement types
541 and 541 O as relevant for creation of challan. Also, you ha
ve to set the number of line items in a challan to be only 1 in the customi
sing node 'subcontracting attributes'.
So the system will create 1 challan per line of the transfer posting
document as it finds both 541 and 541 O movements.
If you do not want the system to create challan for 541 as is normal
then remove the movement type 541 from movement type group 0001. Also
remove 101 from movement type group 0002.
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Fábio Almeida
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From last 4 days while creatiing GR with 101 movement agaisnt subcontact purchase order, we are not able to enter subcontract challan, system is giving error. " Document Number .......... not valid for reconcillation : already completed.
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Regards,
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hii
SOme time this will happen in out statndard SAP system.
This because of program problem with other scenario or some indirect affect in system will cause this kind of problem.
So better take of help of technical consultant and do changes in the table of challan status , do necessary changes and then follow the reconciliation procees .
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Excise Invoice Selection Vs assessable value in Subcontracting Challan

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I have maintained the Assessable Value for my subcontracting components and also there is Excise Invoice exists for this components. While creating Subcontracting challan, system is displaying information message that Material XXXXXX has an assessable value, but I would like to refer the Excise Invoice.
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For every excisable material (whether you procure, manufacture or sale) has to be declared as excisable material in table J1ID with appropriate chapter ID, assessable value & CENVAT declaration.
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durga
[email protected]

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You are referring the material challan, which is not posted for Sub-Contracting PO. Pl. check your Material document number. Also pl. check that plant is same in material document & s/c Challan.
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Qty sent to vendor using subsequent adjustment: 5
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Hi all
1.)We purchsed material from vendor A & send these material to vendor B directly for Job work ( for this we have seperate PO with subcontractor)
2.) In Material PO we tick SC vendor & give vendor B.
3.) Then made GR(with only part 1)
4.) MMBE report shows stock provide to vendor B.
5.) After that we made subcontracting challan for vendor B with reference to GR number.
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hi nitin
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Dear Friends,
I have a couple of questions which u may be able to solve:-
1. In a MIGO for a subcontracting PO, i can select the option Refer subcontracting challan in the excise invoice tab. I wanted to know the purpose of this functionality. If i refer the subcontracting challan in the MIGO does it mean I dont have to reconcile the challan after MIGO.
2. When I refer the subcontracting challan in the GR and enter the challan no and year the system throws an error which says - Challan material is different from material document. i have checked the material document for the transfer posting made. But the material is the same in all the cases and flows from the PO itself. please help me out with this error.
Regards
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for point 2 do this
In spro --> taxon goods movemnt > indiac> business transaction --> subcontrcating --> maintain movement type grp
here miantain
0001 101 O
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0001 541
0001 544 O
0002 542
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Edited by: Kedar Kulkarni on Jan 27, 2010 7:53 PM
Edited by: Kedar Kulkarni on Jan 27, 2010 8:21 PM
Edited by: Kedar Kulkarni on Jan 27, 2010 8:26 PM

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