Subcontracting GR VS Reconcile J1IFQ

Dear All,
While posting the GR against the Subcontracting I am getting the error challan material is different than material document.
BUT If i post the GR W/O Excise entry. And in J1IFQ Reconcile i am able to reconcile the material document against the challan.
IF the challan material is different than material document then system should not allow me to reconcile also in J1IFQ.
Please suggest.......

The reason u get this error message is that, the program for sub contracting does not check the Series group and the Excise Group.
It only checks the Number range and Year.
So, by making the different number range for each Series group for 57F4, u will be able to resolve the issue.
The Challan Number range for each Series group or Plant should be different from each other.
You cannot keep the same number range from 0000000 to 9999999 for every Series group.
Regards
Prabhjot Singh

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Hi,
Still i am facing the same error...
i have mentioned the step as followed in below.
1. I have created the SC challan wrt to the document no for 541 MVT.
2. I did GR throguh migo aginst he PO wrt SC challan
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The above steps are right?
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In subcontracting while doing reconcilation problem is coming due to some components will send with refrence to purchase order and some will send with out refrence of purchase order for the same purchase order for this reconcilation problem is coming how to reconcile this please help on this.
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You can reconcile challan against material document(GR with reference to p.o or Issued with reference to P.O) using J1IFQ.
Whereas it is not possible to reconcile using J1IFQ when you issue materials without reference to p.o.
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Here in client place after receiving the (semi finished material) material from the subcontracting vendor quality inspection will be conducted and if the material is rejected in quality inspection that material will be returned to subcontracting vendor and reconciled on same 57F5 challan.
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Note that reconciliation is done only when the components sent by you are used up. Reconciliation is NOT meant for sending the finished/semi finished product back to the vendor. So the system behaviour of not showing you the option to refer the challan in MIGO when you do 122 is correct.
You need to send this material back to the vendor with an excise invoice if the finished/semi finished product is excisable. You will have to either cancel the earlier reconciliation (if any happened) else you will have to reverse the challan to indicate that the component consumption is also reversed. This will create an accounting document. Recredit can be availed when the corrected material is sent back by the subcon vendor.

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Hi all
our clients requires different scenario how would we map these into the SAP
1-We send the material to Sub contracting Vendor for Machining operation suppose 100 piece. but Vendor make the some pieces faulty (Rejection) like 10 piece.
2- by default vendor send some pieces without doing any machining operation.like 5 piece out of 100
3- Some times we issues material defect pieces to subcontracting vendor by default
4- Component we have already received but some of them are get reject on production line but component can be rectify and for rectification we send the component back to Vendor for precessing without paying anything to vendor for this rectification
How would we map these four scenario in SAP
These are the scenario please gives your valuable suggestion to map into SAP
Thanks
Edited by: JAM SAP on Feb 10, 2008 4:23 PM

Dear Jam as far as my knowledge is concerned you can refer the Subcontract Scenario mentioned below :
1) 100 Pcs sent for subcontracting ,GRN of Sucontracting PO takes Place and in Quality 10 Pcs gets rejected 90 is accepted
In this scenario -if you are having quality check then material will be in blocked stock in quality rejection,and the material can be sent to scrap(or Rejection) stores but if you dont have quality check in that case when GRN of subcontracting PO is done for that you can do 542 movement of the raw material on which processing is done ,transaction code is MB1B and you can select the scrap(or rejection) stores during that movement.
2)100 Pcs sent for subcontracting ,GRN of Sucontracting PO takes Place and vendor sends 90 with processed and 10 pcs without processing
In this scenario-you can simply do 542 movement of the raw material on which processing is done ,transaction code is MB1B and you can select the Rawmaterial (which was sent to vendor for processing) stores during that movement.
3)100 Pcs sent for subcontracting ,out of which 10 pcs of RM which was sent for processing is defective GRN of Sucontracting PO takes Place and vendor sends 90 with processed and 10 pcs without processing which are defective from our side back.
In this scenario-you can do 542 movement of the raw material-defective pcs which was sent to vendor ,transaction code is MB1B and you can select the scrap(or rejection) stores during that movement.
4)100 Pcs sent for subcontracting ,GRN of Sucontracting PO takes Place and 100 pcs is accepted but during processing it is found that the component which is in WIP which was received from subcontractor 10 pcs are not machined properly so it has to be reworked and to be sent back to subcontracting vendor for
reprocessing and this processing should be w/o charges.
Well in this case the WIP component which is found that it is not m/ced properly can be taken back into stock with 502 movement -T code-MB1C or it material to material transfer can be done ...i.e from WIP stock i am doing RM stock with 309 movement ,T Code-MB1A so that my original RM can be in stock and i can send this RM or WIP item to the vendor for reworking.
For this you will have to make a subcontracting PO of the 10 Pcs which has to be reworked with Free Item to be ticked in PO(Because you dont want the charge of processing to be given to vendor). You will be doing the 541 movement so that in system it will show that stocks are lying with vendor , Create Challan ,
T Code -J1if01 and after processing vendor will send it back .so you will do GRN of this subcontract PO and now the same can be utilised for further production purpose.
WELL DEAR FRIEND HERE IN ALL THE SCENARIO I HAVE NOT MENTIONED ABT SUBCONTACTING CHALLAN RECONCILATION (J1iFq),You will have to take care of that in each of these scenarion mentioned above.
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Dear Sir,
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We created a Purchase Order for Subcontracting (item category L) for an Item COMP-PM25 qunatity 1 number . To make the above Item , it need input item RM-IRN-01 of quantity 50 meter .
We had transferred RM-IRN-01 of quantity 75 meter in reference of the Purchase Order to Vendor Stock and accordingly a subcontract challan was prepared .
Subsequently we did GR for COMP-PM25 and during GR mentioned the relevant subcontract challan . During GR , the material RM-IRN-01 quantity 50 meter got consumed .
Subsequently , we did the Subcontract challan reconciliation using J1IFQ and during reconciliation for item RM-IRN-01 a quantity of 50 meter got assigned .
Our problem is that in J1IFR , we still find that there is pending quantity of 25 meter for item RM-IRN-01 . Please guide us as what steps we need to follow to close this pending quantity (considering that vendor is sending back the remaining 25 meter quantity ) .
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B Mittal

Hi.,
If the material sent by you to the Vendor is coming back without processing then for this do the transfer posting with the mov. type 542.....& reconcile the challan referring this transfer posting material document.
If the material is processed at vendor end & he is providing the finished material to you as mentioned in PO.
then do the GR. & J1IFQ w.r.t. GR material document
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Dear Sir
1. issue material to subcontractor by Mov Type-541, date-11,12,2009
2.receive Material from Subcontractor by Mov type-542,date-05,07,2010
3.when Creating Reconciliation for Subcontracting Challans, T code-J1IFQ
Errors comes as shown below
"Cannot Reconcile : Crossed Return Date, please Reverse"
Please guide me

Challan has crossed return date i.e more than 180 days,In this case,
Do as per help docuemntation
[Completion, Reversal, and Recredit|http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60_sp/helpdata/en/09/ebf138cdd78a4be10000000a114084/frameset.htm]

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Can you guide me how to reverse the cenvat credit if vendor do not return the material after 180 days. Please suggest if different option is there.

Hi Ranjan
For the following cases...
1) Completion of subcontracting challan incase of total reconcile
2) Reverse the excise in case of non-return or non-consumption of components within 180days
3) Recredit of excise back incase of return of consumption of components by subcontractor
For all these case, you have to do J1IF13 transation only.
If your reconsile is 100%, your challan will get status completion.
If parital components lying at subcontractor, the excise amounts gets reversed.
If you do subsequent receipt or consumption which will be updated by reconcilation (J1IFQ), then if you carry out J1IF13, your excise will get recredited.
warm regards
sairam akundi

Urgent:subcontracting

hi,
we are giving some materials for subcontracting and getting it back, through 541 movemnt we are able to generate subcontracting challan and reconcilling it after the receipt of the material.
our scenario is we want to send back some material for reworking to the same subcontractor thru challan creation. how to encorporate this sap img settings.
KIndly help me out.
Full points will be rewarded.
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Hi
If you want to send the recd material for subcontracting then create a copy of 541 mvt type like Z41 and a reversal for the same as Z42.
Send the same material by Z41 and prepare a challan.
Create a return with Z42 and reconcile the challan.
Hope this will help you.
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DEAR CONS
I CREATED A SUBCONTACTING P.O & IN THE COMPONENTS I entered the components & as well as the scrap from vendor (free item) . The system does not post it. gives a message Update control of movement type is incorrect (entry 101 _ X Q B _ V)
Message no. M7226
Diagnosis
The system could not find entry 101 _ X Q B _ V in any of the movement type control tables.
Procedure
Cancel current processing.
Contact your system administrator.
Action to be taken by the system administrator
Check in Customizing for Inventory Management under Copy, Change Movement Types whether the entry is contained in the Update control view for the movement type.
If the entry is missing, proceed as follows:
 For standard movement types, this means that the given process is not supported using the present data combination. Do not create any entries without prior arrangement with your SAP consultant. Otherwise, incorrect postings may result.
 For customer-defined movement types (beginning with 9, X, Y, or Z), this may mean that they have not been fully defined. Delete the movement type and re-create it by copying a standard movement type.
pl.solve this problem & gives step by step by which i can make setting.
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Dear Nirupama Swain,
Frist check ur Stock overview Child material stocks to issue the material to subcontracting vendor.
Maintain the BOM with T.code CS01
Pls follow the steps for Subcontracting cycle:(without payment of Excise Duty)
1. A Subcontracting Purchase Order is raised on the Vendor with Item Categery 'L'
2. The Materials are transferred to the Vendor through a 541 Movement Type with T.Code MB1B
3. A Subcontracting Challan is created.
4 The Semi finished Material is received from the Vendor through 101 movement. A 543 movement occurs for the components
5. The subcontracting challan is reconciled.
6. The challan completion process is carried out.
7. Invoice Verification for the vendors invoice occurs
With regards,
B.Ravindranath

Problem In Subcontract Reconillation / challan Closing

Hi,
I am facing problem in subcontract challna reconcillation with J1IFQ
Subcontract PO created for Finish material 'XYZ' qty 250 Nos   one raw material 'ABC' one qty required for each finish good   but in PO   user have added 450 quanity of raw material now for Finish product for quanity 250 three Grs made
1 : 126
2:   61
3:   63
but the consumption of Raw material in GR is showing as 227,110,114 this becomes 451 now the reconcillation is done for first two GR aganist which the raw material assign is 227 + 110 = 337 now as only 113 qty of rm balance now we are doing reconillation for third GR system is giving error mesage 8I574
Material 1363 is not assigned fully, short by 1.000 NO, and it is not allowin gfor reconcillation also as the uinvocie verification is already done for the GR so insted of reversing all how to close the challan.
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Dear,
Here is my understanding, that is if you give 250 nos to subcontractor, he will process and give you 250 nos. This should be you actual PO. Hence if you do GRN for 1 Nos, then consumption at vendor end (543) will also be made for 1 Nos. But, you said your user has maintained the input qty as 450 nos. And subsequently you have also done the GRN's.
If my understanding is correct then do the following:
Delete the material document assignment, which you have done for the first two GRN numbers. In J1ifq.
so that the challan balance qty and status will go back to its original position.
Then cancel the GRN's. All the three. So that all the stocks will go back to vendor location.
Correct the Input- ouput ratio in the purchase order as 1:1. Then do the GRN again and do the reconciliation.
Pls revert if you need anymore clarification.
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VJ

Challan material is different from material document----Message no. 8I572

Hi,
I am getting the following error in subcontracting process when reconciling through J1IFQ.
Challan material is different from material document----Message no. 8I572
After P.O. creation and issued the materials through 541 and created a subcontract challan 57f4 and G.R has been done when reconciling through J1IFQ i am getting the above mentioned error.
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In spro --> taxon goods movemnt > indiac> business transaction --> subcontrcating --> maintain movement type grp
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Dear Sasi,
1. A Subcontracting Purchase Order is raised on the Vendor
2. The Materials are transferred to the Vendor through a 541 Movement Type.
3. A Subcontracting Challan is created.
4. The Semi finished Material is received from the Vendor through a 101 movement. A 543 movement occurs for the components
5. The subcontracting challan is reconciled.
6. The challan completion process is carried out.
7. Invoice Verification for the vendors invoice occurs
with regards,
B.Ravindranath

Problem in J1IFQ quantity reconcilation

Dear all,
Still my problem is open, i am unable to reconcile the challan quantity in J1IFQ. It is not recognising the 545 O movement type in MIGO. i have declared that in subcontracting attributes with 0002 movement group. still i am unable to reconcile the scrap material quantity. Hope experts respond......
if somebody have scenario screen shots please send them to [email protected]
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Dear Venkadesh,
Please mail the document to [email protected] and [email protected] Your timely help is much appreciated. thanks in advance.
regards,
vvr sharma

Hi Santosh,
Batch split is not my scenario. I am sending raw material to the suncontracting vendor and receiving finished goods from him. i am mentioning the scrap to be returned by him as a separate material in BOM with -ve quantity. i am also able to create the challan and do GR . during GR also the system is defaulting 101, 543 O and 545 O movement types. the problem is while J1IFQ. the sysytem is gig=ving a message that the by product quantity is not assigned. i have also maintained the 545 O movement type as 0002 movement group in the suncontracting attributes.
please send me the real time scenario screen shots if anyone has such scenario and anyother solution deliverable to the client.
[email protected]
thanks in advance
reg
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