Subcontracting Issues

In subcontracting Cycle , we have created a scheule aggrement.We have also maintained the production version in Purcahasing info recoed for Material & vendor combination.A goods receipt has been done for the part qty agains the sheduling aggrement.Now we have done some changes in the BOM of the material.But this new BOM is not getting explored at the time of GR,Why?How the changes in BOM can be automically tracked in PO or scheduling aggrement ?(if GR for the part qty is done)
Thnaks & regards,
Sachin

hi,
You have changed the BOM today(23.04.2008)
but the P.O date is earlier date((20.04.2008) so the BOM will not flow.
you have to shortclose the line item and create a new line item in the same p.o and change and do the GR now the New BOM will flow.
(OR) shortclose the old P.O and create a New P.O and do the GR ,new BOM will flow
Please try
G.Ganesh Kumar

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Edited by: ramesh9632 on Jan 7, 2012 6:49 AM
Moderator message:even asking several time the same question does not change SAPs standard design.
You got your answers already:
Edited by: Jürgen L. on Jan 7, 2012 2:20 PM

Hello Mohit,
This is a technical snag in SAP. When you create a Subcon PO, a requirement is generated in MD04, thus showing expected issues. When you do a delivery by ME2O, these requirements are subtracted from existing stock and the remaining stock is shown as available, or picked in delivery. This happens because the Subcon PO and delivery created are not linked to each other in terms of requirement planning. There are some SAP notes, which highlight the issue and possible solution..see note number 458606 and 323991.
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PO requirement of Component B - 10 units
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Regards,
VS
Edited by: VS on Aug 5, 2008 6:10 PM

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Hi gurus,
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