Subcontracting material valuation
Hello,
Is it possible to mark labour costs on a subcontracting Material as cost not relevant during costing valuation on a per material basis? We would like to implement subcontracting, but keep the ability to mark the labour as cost not relevant for some materials.
Any suggestions appreciated.
M
Hi
Welcome to SDN!
Lab cost relevant or not is decided at Cost Comp Structure Level in OKTZ... This applies to the Plant / Comp Code as a whole
This cant be controlled at Material level
Sorry that I could not offer you a +ve reply on your 1st post.. But thats the correct answer
br, Ajay M
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I have the below scenario:
Finshed Product A has components B, C.
C is a subcontacted material and it has its own BOM with components D & E.
We are maintaining moving average price for the subcontracted material C, (because the subcontracter is adding X & Y in addtion to the components D and E, which are sent from us).
In the mateial maste of C, Procurement type is F and Spl. procurement type 30 are maintained.
When i do costing for the Finished product A, moving average price of C is not picked up (where as system calculates the std cost for C by adding the values of D & E and purchase info record price).
Is there any way to Calculate Price of A by using the mvg avg price of C.
I maintained the below valuation variant settings.
If i remove the spl. procurement type 30 in the material master of C, it picks up the mvg. avg price. but it affects the MRP planning of items D & E.
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Thanks for your response.
I understand.
1. if we maintain spl. procureent key 30, system calculates standard cost based on raw material and service charges.
2. If we don't maintain spl. proc key, it considers the material as purchased and picks the mvg avg price from material.
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We have some material that we subcontract out and the material has QI inspect required on it. The material was received into a subcontractor and we are now having a bit of an issue getting it out of QI/blocked stock.
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You are doing the subcontracting process totally wrong....this is because for VENDOR Subcontractor we have only Unrestricted stock type to which you post via 541....
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Hi Experts,
Please tell me following.
1. In costing variant --- Valuation variant -
Overhead , there is check box for Overhead on subcontracted material
I want to know what & where do I get its effect if I mark or unmark this check box.
2. I have fully processed on process order till GR,in which I did not issue extra raw material quantity. Status of order now is REL CNF DLV PRC BASC BCRQ GMPS MACM . where I found Total target cost for component is 1040.70 & Total actual cost 1041.00
& Target/Actual varience is 0.30. Why system showing this variances as I issued only planned quantity.
Regards,Hi,
Pasting SAP help, guess it is quite descriptive & should answer your query, else revert.
Regards,
Vivek
Overhead on Subcontracted Materials
Indicator specifying whether, in respect of materials subject to subcontracting, overhead is applied in accordance with the costing sheet in the valuation variant.
Use
Set this indicator if you want to apply overhead to subcontracted materials (for example, to include material and administrative overhead).
Note
The application of overhead to subcontracted materials is included in material costing as well in unit costing on a manual basis for any subcontracting items entered.
Dependencies
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Goods receipt for subcontracting material
Hello friends,
i am doing operation subcontractiing. My first operation is subcontracted. So, I have assigned PP02 control key to first operation (external processing and no auto goods receipt indicator) and maintained external processing data for opration in routing. When i saved the order, for that operation PR gets generated.
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I am running into an issue where a material valuation lock is causing deliveries to fail goods issue when PGI is triggered from the shipment. These shipments contain many deliveries and are sometimes processed in mass (VT12). This is causing issues since the operator is not immediately aware an error occurred as the shipment completes normally and all attached deliveries not containing the affected material are posted. The lock appears to be originating from MIRO during AP invoice creation. Late exclusive block (OMJI) has been activated and set to 30 seconds however this has not eliminated the issue. This supports the MIRO theory since any other posting conflict (other PGIs) should have completed and released the lock within the 30 seconds.
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Are you the person - who worked with for in Heineken? How do you do? No update from you..
We can not change the values in the material master because of that issue..
I have checked for the OSS notes.. but the issue had reassigned to FI team - they had raised it to SAP.
If we create new material, there won't be a problem at all..
Paresh - really we are all missing you..
waiting for your reply Paresh..
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Changing of Material Valuation Classes
Currently changing of material valuation classes in standard SAP can be achieved if :
1. If valuated stocks already exist, you can change the valuation class
only as follows:
a) Post the stocks of the material to an interim account.
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That makes it very tricky doesn't it.
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User Exit for material valuation is not called up
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