SubContracting Melting Order
Hi,
Business Process-
Ex- Created a New Model Car, this design have a particular time limit to achive the target. If the design not able to succeed inthe market with in the given time period we will melt this design.
SAP-
Design is the FG material Number with BOM universal (Engine, tyres, headlights, doors, steering, break etc, etc)
I issued this FG to Subcontracting Vendor through Movement type 541.
Now he will seperate all the Parts and returns back as a raw materials to us.
Now how to MAP this in the system.
Note- After seperation of the parts there is no more FG for GR.
Thanks in advance
Veera.
hi
as this will be a scenario in which u will send 1 RAW and get multiple FG
so what u can do is define the BOM for finished goods say ENGINE with raw material CAR and add other components with -ve value in BOM
means
bomwill be like
FG ENGINE (major component ) for this BOM will be
CAR 1
headlight 2-
cluch plate 1-
tyres 4-
etc etc
so when u send material will be CAR
and engine will be the major poduct and other parts will be minor
so at time of GR the -ve part velue become possitive and treated as byproduct
regards
kunal
hope it clears
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LTP Planning for Subcontracting Purchase Order
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I am doing LTP run for the Finished Material.
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But the planning is not creating depending procurement proposals for the child items.
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Edited by: Shailendra Hadkar on Apr 7, 2010 10:44 AMHi All,
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Open Po quantity in subcontracting Purchase Order
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In case subcontracting purchase order,If order quantity 10 and recept quantity is 05 then in delivery shedule tab I didn't got any open purchase order quantity means 05 quantity why?
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Anil PatilHi Anil.
Please check the following fields in schedule line:
- 'Scheduled qty': 10
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(This means the goods were partially delivered for the PO)
If your situation is this you don't have to expect SAP to create new shedule line I think.
I think you have to modify the schedule line manually if you want a 'Delivery date' different from that was defined in the line of the PO item.
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Problem for Goods Receipt for Subcontracting Purchase Order
Dear all,
Presently, we are using SAP version 4.6C and we need to introduce GR for
Subcontracting Purchase Order. We have developed a ABAP program to handle
subcon Goods Receipt by uploading flat-files from our subcontractor. The
scenario is as follows :
Goods Receipt for Subcontracting Purchase Order
1. In the ABAP program, function BAPI_GOODSMVT_CREATE will be used for goods
movement.
2. Data provided to the function are as follows :
- Posting date
- Document date
- Material number
- Plant
- Storage location
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- Movement type (101)
- Quantity
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- Purchase order item
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3. The function will do data verification and automatically determine GI
item for subcon stock:
- Movement type (543)
- Special stock (O - parts prov. vendor)
- Material
- Quantity
- Plant
Our problem is that :
Only the GR item in the interface is to be transferred and the GI item is
determined by the system. So, the quantity for subcon stock cannot be
changed using this BAPI. Then the system will continue processing the goods
receipt and create material document.
Manually, by using transaction code MIGO, the user can display the subcon
stock data and then change the quantity.
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appreciate any valuable help from anyone who is able to help us on this
matter. Are there any other BAPI's that can help us to achieve the same
result ?
Thank you in advance and best regards.As far as i understood the problem I suggest u to create the
BDC according to user actions that are performed in he manual
operation.
I can't say that the BAPI performs the exac solution what you want.
I have done some BDC work using MB01 and suggest you to be careful
and try to keep the complete in the logic as some chages in rows in BDC will
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material
row.
This methodology will help u even in mass uploads.
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so As per my understanding bdc program is the solution. pls try and let me
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Good receipt problem for subcontracting purchase order
Good receipt problem for subcontracting purchase order
with account assignment type E.
After update to ECC 6.0. Do good receipt for subcontracting purchase order with account assigment 'E'.The system show the error message(KI235)----Two cost elements (Change in Stock (Subcontracting)&Outside processed fee) haven't CO account assignment.but the field status for sale order is option entry , when I default cost center for the cost element in OKB9.the system post the material document and generate the following accounting document.
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Doc. Number 5000056065 Company code 1000 Fiscal year 2007
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When use MIGO to do good receipt for subcontracting Purchase order, for consumption account((Change in Stock (Subcontracting)-41010102&Outside processed fee--41031000) ,why the system dont recognize the sale order filled as CO account assignment?Dear fanny chen
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Link from delivery to subcontracting purchase order
Hi Guys,
anyone know how to pick up the link from a delivery (LIKP / LIPS) and the subcontracting purchase order (EKKO / EKPO) which was used to create it?
I'm not sure such a link exists - the PO does not appear in the document flow of the delivery, and the delivery does not appear in the history of the purchase order.
My users want to print the PO number on the delivery document (not unreasonable?) but I can't find a link anywhere...
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I assume that you mean the outbound delivery created in transaction ME2O to deliver components to your subcontractor.
There is no link possible between the subcon.PO and this outbound delivery. Because the component requirements in ME2O can be the result of multiple subcon.PO's. When you create the outbound delivery, it contains components for the cumulated requirements (so that can be for multiple PO's). That's the reason that there is logically no link possible between PO and the outbound delivery.
Kind regards, Dick Hendriks. -
BAPI for GR against subcontracting Purchase order
Hi Friends,
I need to make the GR against the Subcontracting Purchase order, for that I need the BAPI. can I use BAPI_GOODSMVT_CREATE.
The problem is how to find out the BOM Materials. Can anybody provide me the source code for the reference of GR for Subcontracting Purchase Order.
Thanks in advance.
KrishanHi krishan,
Refer to the link below for sample code of
BAPI_GOODSMVT_CREATE:
http://www.sap-img.com/abap/bapi-goodsmvt-create-to-post-goods-movement.htm
also refer to the link below for BAPi's:
http://www.sapbapi.com/bapi-list/
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Pritam. -
Bapi for subcontracting purchase order
Hi,
is there a BAPI allowing to create a subcontracting purchase order?
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BAPI_PO_CREATE and BO: BUS2012.
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Subcontracting Purchase Order with Delivery Cost
Hello Experts,
I am facing issue during Goods Receipt against Subcontracting Purchase Order.
Note:
a) Subcontracting PO has delivery cost given 200 /pc.
b) Condition type Z001 for Delivery has Condition Category "B" with accrual checked.
c) Pricing Procedure has Accrual Key FR1 with condition type Z001
d) Condition Z001 is common for Standard Item Category PO and Subcontracting PO for delivery cost.
During Goods receipt, system generates following accounting.
BSX Inventory-SemiFinish M S 521.12
WRX GRIR Clrg-Mat A/c S H 100.00-
BSV Inc/Dec. in Semi-F S H 521.12-
FRL Job Work S S 100
FRN Freight Clearing A/c S S 100
FR1 Freight Clearing A/c S H 100.00-
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GBB RM Consumed-Domestic S S 321.12
As shown above FRN is the account which is the resultant of Devliery cost during Subcontracting. Entry of this Key is not completely knocked off in this transaction and next transaction for invoice verification MIRO.
My query:
A) Can we stop account posting for FRN.
B) If not How will FRN entry be knocked off, (Entry for FR1 gets set off during MIRO- Invoice verification.)
C) In case B is not possible, Posting in account assigned to FRN Key will always show values.
Can any one help me to confirm that Entries above during Goods Receipt are ok, If not what sort of changes are required.
Can we use same condition types for Delivery cost for Standard Item category PO and Subcontracting PO .
Awaiting reply,
Regards,
ManishHi Vaibhav,
a) I am not able to understand why do you think the above entries are not correct.The entries are perfect.
My Reply: Ok I do agree for a movement that entries are ok, No Issues
b) If you want that freight entries should not go to separate account then you can include the freight charges in the same condition as basic price condition so that charges will go to FRL and WRX.
My Reply: How can I include Freight Charges in the same condition as basic price condition, so that charges will to go FRL & WRX, Can you please explore this,
Regards
Manish -
Message type for generating IDOC for SUBCONTRACTING PURCHASE ORDER
Hi All,
I have to generate IDOC for PO creation or change .
I am using IDOC_OUTPUT_ORDERS and IDOC_OUTPUT_ORDCHG.
The messagetype.idoctype I am using is ORDERS. ORDERS05 and ORDCHG. ORDERS05.
Now the confusion is regarding whether this message type will work in case of SUBCONTRACTING PURCHASE ORDER as well ?
As I have gone through some websites and came to know that I will have to use PORDCR1.PORDCR102 specially for subcontracting.
And programs we need to use is BUS2012_ICH_R3 instead of RSNASTED and Form Routine SEND_PORDCR1 instead of EDI_PROCESSING.
Purchase Order Collaboration scenario - Not generating IDOC in ECC
http://www.erpgenie.com/faq/edi_purchasing.htm on this site question no 8.
Subcontract PO IDOCs
I hope your experience will help me .
Please reply ASAP.
Edited by: uttam27 on Dec 4, 2011 1:47 PMThere is a generic function to create change pointers for all message typs - 'CHANGE_POINTERS_CREATE_DIRECT'. This is triggered only if you configure your message type to create change pointers from BD50.
Once you activate it do any change to orders you can see change pointer tables BDCPV filled. Then BD21 will read the changes and generated outbound idocs accordingly. -
When creating a subcontracting Purchase Order is is possible to issue components separate from the goods receipt. Our current SAP system configuration requires the user to receive some amount of the material being manufactured by the subcontractor and issue one or more components.
I assume it is possible to break apart the goods issue and goods receipt for a Subcontracting Purchase Order. Please Confirm.
Thanks.
BobHi Vivek
Thanks for the reply. Please allow me to clarify. There is a subcontracting PO and we would like to issues all the components as they are used and receive the finished good when it arrives at our warehouse.
For example the subcontractor starts manufacturing Monday and issues 2 of the components. We would like to issue those components without receipting any of the finished good. The finished good arrives on Friday. Today our SAP system is configured to prevent this from happening.
So we cannot do a receipt unless we issue components at the same time in the migo transaction. In the future we would like to issue components as they are used and do the goods receipt sometime in the future. I am trying to confirm if this is possible or not.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Regards,
Bob Bernekc -
Component Stock reservation during subcontracting purchase order
Hi
We have a below requirement..
While creating subcontracting purchase order,using Me21 transaction for finished goods,we require Bill of material components stock to be allocated autamatically during ATP check..Can u tell us where exactly we need to do the config..We need similar settings like sales order(When sales order is created stock gets reserved autamatically ...)
While creating sub contracting order using Me21 transaction,components stock to be be reserved for that order...And if requried we need to unblock the stock for that order and allocate to other order.....
Regards
SwethaHi,
As I have already stated, there is no standard way of achieving what you want.
ME2o is the nearest thing you have to achieving what you want.
Remember the main point I made that the stock sent to the subcontractor is NOT LINKED to the subcontract PO in any way. That is why you can issue a 541 as many times as you like.
the 541 and ME2o are simply methods of maintaining the required stock level of the components at the subcontractor, they are not designed to be allocating stock to individual POs.
As I also said, if you run ME2o regularly you will be shown all POs that have insufficient stock of components at the subcontractor. You do not need to be able to specify an individual PO number, simply enter the subcontractor number, tick the "only SC stocks with shortage" and you will see a list of every item with a shortage. Simply goods issue those items from within ME2o and ths stock will be "reserved" against that subcontractor and so it cannot be used for any internal movements etc.
this is the closest you will get, it reserves the stock against the subcontractor and you wanted it reserved against the PO. This is surely close enough to mean that you don't have to generate a HUGE modification to the system to reserve against the PO. (It would be so big a mod that it would certainly NOT be recommended anyway).
Please do try to see things from another view and consider trying to use ME2o as it was designed to "reserve" the stock against the subcontractor.
Steve B -
Stock reservation during subcontracting purchase order
Hi
We have a below requirement..
While creating subcontracting purchase order,using Me21 transaction for finished goods,we require Bill of material components stock to be allocated autamatically during ATP check..Can u tell us where exactly we need to do the config..We need similar settings like sales order(When sales order is created stock gets reserved autamatically ...)
While creating sub contracting order using Me21 transaction,components stock to be be reserved for that order...And if requried we need to unblock the stock for that order and allocate to other order.....
Regards
SwethaHello Sheweta,
This is not possible. When you create purchase orders for sub-contracting part ..sub requirements will be created from MRP for the BOM components for which you can again create purchaing orders and suplly to sub-contractor for making finish part. Once you supply this now this stock will be diaplyed in the sub-contractor bucket (which you can say reserved). if you want you can take out anytime.
Hope the above calrification will help.
Regards
TAJUDDIN -
Subcontract purchase order release strategy
Iu2019m trying to customize a release strategy for subcontract purchase order (SC) but PO document is not taking any release strategy.
Now Iu2019m not sure about SAP standard allows to have a release strategy for subcontract purchase orders (SC)?
Thanks for your help.Hi,
1. Please check this link (it is for PR but I think might be useful):
http://www.sap123.com/showthread.php?t=59
2. Remark: You can use user exit EXIT_SAPLEBND_002, M06E0004 if you want to make your release startegy sensitive for item category - however this was not question.
3. On additonal data tab of the characteristics (assigned to the class), can you see table CEKKO and its field name in the suitable fileds? (CT04)
4. Does your strategy work for other purchase orders (with other document types)?
5. Please check classification settings under your release startegy, whether the values defiend there are in harmony with the values defined in the subcon-PO (I mean purch doc. category, purchasing group, order type, plant). SPRO > MM > Purchasing > PO > Release procedure for POs > Define Release Procedure for POs - here choose release strategies...
Regards,
Csaba -
Posting of Components made compulsory for Subcontracting Purchase orders
Hi
I am working in ECC 6.0. In case of Goods receipt for subcontracting Purchase Orders, does the child quantities automatically changes when i change the default quantity of Header material according to the BOM relation ? I found it is not happenning.Please inform is this standard?
Also i can post the documentfor header material without the components,by manually changing the quantities for Child items .Kindly give a me suggestion by which this can be controlled.
Regards
ArvindHi,
1.
The component changes as per the header material in MIGO when you want to do GR. Please take care that the components musn't be exploded when you change the qty of the BOM header material. If they are exploded, collapse them ("close the explosion"), after that change the qty of header material and when you explode the components again you should get the proper quantities (this button is in the line of BOM header material).
2.
As per my best knowledge, in standard system you cannot restrict/control the change of component quantities. The cause of it might be that the quantity of components may differ from the rates defined in the BOM and the user HAVE TO CHANGE the quantities as per the real consumption.
Solution might be training. If the user intentionally changes the component quantities, this is a HR issue..
Regards,
Csaba.
Edited by: Csaba Szommer on Dec 26, 2008 5:14 PM
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