Subcontracting Returns

Dear Gurus,
can you explain me the subcontracting return process along with T-codes. Thank you

hi,
Subcontracting Returns:
Case 1) sending material back to vendor for rework FOC.
Step 1) Create PO for rework matrial. change the BOM to recursive in component tab.Tick for FOC
Step2) send matreial through MB1B 541.
Step3) create s/c challan J1IF01
Step4) GRN against s/c PO.
Step5) Reconcille Challan J1IFQ
step6) Complete challan J1IF13
Case2) sending material back to vendor for rework with changes.
Step 1) Create PO for rework matrial. change the BOM to recursive in component tab.
Step2) send matreial through MB1B 541.
Step3) create s/c challan J1IF01
Step4) GRN against s/c PO.
Step5)LIV for s/c charges.
Step6) Reconcille Challan J1IFQ
step7) Complete challan J1IF13

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Subcontracting return process

Hi,
Any one can tell me Subcontracting Return Process.
a) I done Return Delivery against the Subcontracting PO
b) in J1IF01 I plan to create a Challan, its showing err..like " Document already exists for material document XXXXX"
Please guide me.
Rgs,
Priya.

HI
Follow the below steps:
Creation of Subcontracting PO (ME21N)
Transfer Posting of Components to Subcontractor (Mvmt Type - 541) (MB1B/ME2O/MIGO)
Creation of Subcontracting Challan w.r.t. Transfer Posting Doc (J1IF01)
Goods Receipt w.r.t. Subcontracting PO and Refer Subcontracting Challan at the time of GR (MIGO) {GR with 101 and auto consumption of components with 543 movement}
Reconciliation of Subcontracting Challan (J1IFQ)
Completion of Subcontracting Challan (J1IF13)
Generation of Annexure IV (J1IFR)
Note: - In this case, you have to maintain the Assessable Value for the Components to be supplied to Vendor in J1ID and also Excise Tax rates for the Chapter IDs linked with these components. So during J1IF01, system will take the Assessable Value as Excise base Value and calculates the Excise Duties by taking Excise Tax Rates.
Regards
Prasanna

Error in Subcontracting return

Dear All,
While creating subcontracting return, system throws an error "No conversion found for KG to Nos"
For both Parent and Child item, Base unit of measure and Selling units are same.
Parent item's BUoM is NOs, Child item's BUoM is KG.
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Regards,
Mullairaja

hii
What exactly u wnated to do ??
U wanted to return the subcontracting finished material ?
Return through MIGO..
Thanks

Subcontracting Returns process

Hi Experts,
Need you help on below scenario of subcontracting returns.
I procure a material (X) from Vendor (A) in units of Meter, example rod. Later I send it to Vendor (B) for subcontracting (cutting) and get material (Y) in units of PC.
At the time of quality check of material Y, I observe cracks in the raw material supplied by vendor A and plan to return to him.
What would be your suggestion here, because I've to add up all the pieces to arrive to meters and return to Vendor A.
Example: 200 pcs x 0.21 meter = Total return is 42 meters.
Should I use a returns PO with material X OR returns PO with material Y and alternate UOM OR any other process which you think is better.
Please note this material is excisable
Thanks in advance
Rajoo

Hi,
As per my understanding here, you have done GR for material Y from vendor B. And in background material X from vendor A is consumed in order to confirm receipt material Y. In this case you can not return material X as which is consumed. And if you try to return X there will not stock. Best possible option is that, you have to return the material Y from vendor A. This is you end/ finished product. And as per your input material is Excisable. Now from vendor B you can create one more return PO. to send material back to vendor A. But when you returned the PO & subsequently reversed the Excise using J1IS & Credit Memo to reverse the Amount if yet you have not posted the vendor invoice. in this case you can return the material.
Rg

Subcontract returns to vendor

Dear all Guru,
I am facing the problams in returning(for rejection) material to subcontract vendor.
so when I am receiving subcontract material processed material is inwarded by 101 and 543 for consumption
and inventory for HALB matl is increasing and raw matl is reducing...this is happening as per required.
but when i am making return delivery for the GR no
then by 122 mov type HALB matl inventory is reduced and 546 mov type for RAW matl but the stock is reducing
Pl suggest in return delivery raw mateial speacial stock need to be increased instead of decrease.
regards,
Vimlesh

Hi,
i have the same problem using MIGO, if i don't explode the components the result is correct (for the component type movement 544 + O) but, if you explode the component the result is wrong (for the component type movement 546 - O ) and the stock is bad.
Solutions ?
thank you
regards
Andrea

Subcontracting return/rejection process

Hi experts,
My client is using subcontracting process in one of the plant which is excisable one .Some materials (assembly) gets rejected in quality and is to be return to subcontractor with some challan and after rework from the subcontractor, the same comes back.
My question is How this return/rejection process can be mapped in SAP ( with excise challan and reconcillation etc). If sent back to subcontractor, what abt components?
secondly, is there any report available where subcon PO wise stock can be seen ( receipt/issues of components and assembly as well)
I have to streamline the rejection process. Kindly guide. reply ll be very well appreciated
regards
N Kumar

U have the following option for the Rejection return process,
1. u make return document with movement type 121 for GR Base return , after QA Person reject the qty & post the same to the Blocked storage location.
2.if the MIRO is done for the GRN document , then Create return PO, Post the doument with movement type 161, Use T code j1iv for excise ivoice creation.
for Rework process use following option,
1. make good receipt for the Ok qty only, remaining qty should be return
2.After GRN for the material & QA person posted the qty to Blocked, then use movement type 941 in mb1b so that material post to the vendor, send the material with manual challen,After receiving rework qty use movement type 942 to reverse the qty.
3.create return PO for the rework qty & debit the vendor with rquire amount.
Regards,
Deven

Subcontracting return delivery

Hi,
how can I post a mvt 161 for subcontracting ?
I posted a mvt 101 for the finished product which has a bill of material with two spare parts, now I'm trying to modify the purchase order and add a flag on Returns item field but the message error is:
Returns not possible for subcontracting items
How can I post the return delivery to subcontracting vendor for the finished products ?
Regards

Hi,
Think in diff . way.
why don't use '122' mvt type , and then modify your PO & again reissue the components..
The usage of 'Returnble PO' cann't be used here.
Regards
R

Subcontracting Return

Hello All,
I have a scenario,
We use subcontracting process in which send the raw material code e.g 1100000000 to get the Semi Finished goods with code 120000000.
We have purchased the ROH from vendar XXX and our subcontractor is YYY.
After doing the GR with 120000000 (SFG) , we again process the material to get 1300000000 code.Now problem is while processing the 1200000000 we found some defect in the material which actually due to the defect in ROH.
Now i want to send this ROH back to the vendor XXX who is my ROH purchase vendor.
But problem is that we already have consumed the ROH to create the SFG Code.
Then how can we send the ROH to the vendor in such cases.
We want to use the Return PO.

Hi,
Initially you have to use MB1C transaction with movement type 531 and take back your ROH material ( You have to keep the respective production order number) . Then inorder to reduce the quantity of the SFG, you have to scrap the material by 551 movement. Then the ROH material can be send back to the vendor.
with regards
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Rework in Subcontracting.

Hi All,
We have Subcontracting PO and GR and IR has been done.
Now Some partial FG qty needs to be sent back to the subcontractor for rework process.
Please tell me how can i handle/complete the rework process.
Thanks
John

Hi John,
Subcontracting Returns:
Case 1) sending material back to vendor for rework FOC.
Step 1) Create PO for rework material. change the BOM to recursive in component tab.Tick for FOC
Step2) send material through MB1B 541.
Step3) create s/c challan J1IF01
Step4) GRN against s/c PO.
Step5) Reconcile Challan J1IFQ
step6) Complete challan J1IF13
Case2) sending material back to vendor for rework with changes.
Step 1) Create PO for rework material. change the BOM to recursive in component tab.
Step2) send material through MB1B 541.
Step3) create s/c challan J1IF01
Step4) GRN against s/c PO.
Step5)LIV for s/c charges.
Step6) Reconcile Challan J1IFQ
step7) Complete challan J1IF13.
Regards,
Nani.

Erro 8B260 (Processo de Entrega Futura)

Bom dia, Pessoal!
Estou com um problema no processo de devolução de entrega futura.
Realizei a entrada da nota de fatura normalmente atraves da MIRO e da nota de remessa atraves da MIGO (mov 801).
O fornecedor nos enviou as notas de Fatura e Remessa como de entrada pois ele ainda não tem a obrigação legal da NFE, porém a empresa aonde estou já está obrigada a utilizar a NFE e ao realizar a devolução o sistema não encontra a referencia da nota de remessa. A mensagem de erro é a 8B 260 (NOTA FISCAL DE REFERÊNCIA XXXXX NÃO FOI ENCONTRADA)
O pedido está somente com a opção de parceiro FO o processo já foi criado sem a opção de parceiro "FM" (Fornecedor da Mercadoria).
As Notas Abaixos já estão aplicadas:
NF:
1055401 Subcontracting Returns doesn't find reference Nota Fiscal
NF-e:
1175538 NF-e Reference between NF and NF-e
1238765 NF-e: Returns for Subcontracting - Error 8B287
1257933 NF-e: Reference NF not found by return for subcontracting
1288925 NF-e: References between NF-e and non NF-e
1356952 NF-e: Returns for Subcontracting - Error 8B260
Estive debugando a função J_1B_NF_DOCUMENT_SELECT_2 e o que pode verificar é que como o processo de fatura/remessa é gerado atraves de uma nota de entrada ele armazena as informações J_1BNFDOC-NFNUM porem ao realizar a devolução, como a empresa que estou é obrigada a emitir a NFE a função realiza a busca no campo J_1BNFDOC-NFENUM com o numero da nota de remessa (NFNUM) por este motivo não é encontrado a nota de referencia e o erro é apresentado.
Eu procurei por alguma nota que pudesse corrigir meu problema porém não encontrei nenhuma aplicavél, alguem tem alguma ideia de como resolver este problema?
Obrigado
Gustavo

Olá xará,
tudo certo?
Esse erro provavelmente está ocorrendo porque existem múltiplos parceiros atribuídos ao Pedido de Compras.
No procesos de entrega futura, contudo, o sistema comporta somente a utilização de um parceiro, do contrário o processo é interpretado como sendo uma operação triangular.
Abraços

Quality Score in Vendor Rating

Dear Sir/Mam
I want to know about quality score which comes in Usage decision,Now in our case when inspection lot is generated we have only one case if accepted the quality score is 100 and when rejected 1,but our requriment is we want different quality score,i maintained different score in selected set,my concern whether this quality score has impact on vendor evaluation score( for quality criteria),how it is calculated please guide.
Regards
Kunal
Edited by: kunal joshi on Mar 26, 2009 6:07 AM

Dear Kunal
Quality score are maintained for quantitative valuation of the quality of inspection lots against a vendor, material , customer
1) They have to be first maintained in the client level setting
SPRO > QM> Maintain settings at client level> You need to maintain the highest quality score (100) and lowest quality score (1) system doesnt take 0. also Lower limit for good quality (90)
2) it is maiinly used in the selected sets for usage decision
QS51/ 03 catalogs for each UD code you can give a Quality score. So while you are giving UD system picks up this score and update the same for inspection lot , material, vendor, customer as applicable.
You can give 100 as quality score for clean acceptance, 1 for complete rejection, may be 50 for partial acceptance etc.
for eg you can maintain your UD selected sets like this Code, Description and UD score
001     Clean Acceptance     A Accepted (OK)     100
002     Accepted subject to Rework     R Rejected (not OK)     50
003     Accepted with deviation     R Rejected (not OK)     70
004     Accepted after segregation (Partial qty)     R Rejected (not OK)     60
005     Rejected     R Rejected (not OK)     1
006     Accepted subject to functional test     A Accepted (OK)     100
007     UD Changed due to line rejection     R Rejected (not OK)     30
008     UD changed due to problem at Customer     R Rejected (not OK)     1
009     Subcontract return - ABB     A Accepted (OK)     100
010     Auto UD for Skip Lot     A Accepted (OK)     100

Change mov.type 543 by other one into MIGO

Dear friends,
Does anyone knows how MIGO determine mov.type 543 to Subcontracting return ?
Is this hard code determination ?
I need to change it to another movement type.
best regards,
Ale

Hi
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M7 328 : Free Subcontracting PO with more than1 GR in return delivey

hi
We have a Subcontracting scheduling agreement with Price as 0.00 for which has GR more than one.
While posting return delivery by QA11(QM Process) after GR which was from an inbound delivery the material could not be returned because of error M7 328
Error MSG:
Deficit of Delivered quantity 10 EA : 27793210511210 1100 KA12 4
Message no. M7328
Diagnosis
This message can occur in the following situations:
At goods receipt:
The quantity planned for the inbound delivery falls short by 10 EA.
Upon a reversal or return delivery:
This posting will return 10 EA more than the quantity posted at goods receipt with reference to the inbound delivery.
System Response
If the message is an error message (E), the above is not allowed.
If the message is a warning message (W), the system will allow your input, but the warning is intended to prevent you entering a wrong quantity.
Procedure
In the case of a warning message, check the quantity entered.
In the case of an error message, change the quantity or terminate processing.
Note:
The abbreviations in the short text of this message can have the following values:
BA = batch
OR = order
PL = plant
PR = previous
regards
NVB

Go to vendor return and change stock type to Unrestricted then you can able to return the material.

Return process in subcontracting scenario

Hi all,
Here in client place after receiving the (semi finished material) material from the subcontracting vendor quality inspection will be conducted and if the material is rejected in quality inspection that material will be returned to subcontracting vendor and reconciled on same 57F5 challan.
AS per my knowledge while returning the material(semi finished) to sub contracting vendor (mvt 122) in migo in excise tab "refer sub contracting challan 'is to appear and we should refer to sub contact challan no. after that in j1ifq it should be reconcile.But in excise tab in MIGO refer subcontract challan is not appearing & if i tried to reconcile in j1ifq against that material doc number system is not allowing to reconcile .
Pls guide me whether this process is correct or not .If this is correct how i can proceed to resolve this issue .
Thanks & Regards
vr

Note that reconciliation is done only when the components sent by you are used up. Reconciliation is NOT meant for sending the finished/semi finished product back to the vendor. So the system behaviour of not showing you the option to refer the challan in MIGO when you do 122 is correct.
You need to send this material back to the vendor with an excise invoice if the finished/semi finished product is excisable. You will have to either cancel the earlier reconciliation (if any happened) else you will have to reverse the challan to indicate that the component consumption is also reversed. This will create an accounting document. Recredit can be availed when the corrected material is sent back by the subcon vendor.

Return deliver for subcontracting materail in QA11/QA12

Hi,
After GR for subcontracting materail we doing result recording.Materails which will not meet quality parametrs are rejexted by Quality dept in QA11/QA12.Batch management ia activeted for all material in plants.
While doing Return delivery tio Vendor in QA11/12, getting error message (M7 389)
Pl. suggest.
Rgd,
Ganesh

Hi,
Please refer sapnote_0000645119 :Problems with subcontracting using delivery
Some of imprt points of note :
The only alternative is to recreate the component batches during
the goods receipt in the background of the return delivery. To do
this, you must make the following settings:
- As described in Note 566147, message M7 389 must only be set as
a warning message (transaction: OMCQ).
- For the movement type 544, automatic batch creation must be
allowed in transaction OMJJ (field: V_156_VC-CHNEU).
- For movement type 544 O, you must not define a search scheme
for the batch determination (transaction: OMCG).
- Internal batch number assignment must always be activated
(transaction: OMCZ).
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