Subcontracting with PP /PS

question 1: we have project stock in store and we issue the raw material (project stock) to production .so 1st operation is done in house and now for the second operation we are sending the material to subcontractor for machining but the problem is same material is sent and received back and since the stock is already issue to production the current stock in MMBE is zero.
however i need to issue the child material that is raw material to vendor from MB1B but the quantity is already consumbed by production order in first operation . Please advise the solution.
question 2: I am not able to issuse the project stock material to subcontractor in MB1b since a material cannot fall in two special stock category.
i have found a link to use 311 Q movement type to solve the issue. but please advise if any other solution is there
all child componenet are excisable.
Question 3: can we mention the assesable value of material in 57 F4 challan .
question 4: some child component is sent to subcontractor and same are recieved back along with finished product.
they are not consumed in process . advise how to adress in sap.
question 5: we receive finished material from subcontractor but in side company we splitt the material in componenets in certain cases . please advise how to increase the stock of componenet and reduce the stock of parent material.

HI,
question 1: we have project stock in store and we issue the raw material (project stock) to production .so 1st operation is done in house and now for the second operation we are sending the material to subcontractor for machining but the problem is same material is sent and received back and since the stock is already issue to production the current stock in MMBE is zero.
however i need to issue the child material that is raw material to vendor from MB1B but the quantity is already consumbed by production order in first operation . Please advise the solution.
Please take your semifinieshed material in stock like we did for finished material which we take in stock and then sale to customer take PP help for same
question 2: I am not able to issuse the project stock material to subcontractor in MB1b since a material cannot fall in two special stock category.
i have found a link to use 311 Q movement type to solve the issue. but please advise if any other solution is there
all child component are excisable
It is not possible to send special stock to vendor,you have to move your special stock to unrestricted stock first then you can send it to vendor ,transporting from project stock to unrestricted
check following link
[Movement Type 411 and 412;
Regards
Kailas Ugale

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Hi,
I have a couple of questions about "PS subcontracting with external activity" I have not found any information about this for PS subcon flow, I was looking for a subcon PS Wiki but no succeed.
The scenario is to use a external activity to a subcontractor and put the material components to deliver in the external activity and check the subcon check box. Then use the valuated project stock for holding the materials.
For material components there is an option in tab "Proc. Param" and fiel "Mat. Prov. Ind." = "Material Provision Indicator", do you know if this option can be use or be available in PS? This field is grey so I can not do anything with it, so my guess is that option use only by a BOM, could you confirm that for me?
Right now I have a problem in the system so I can not save a project when creating a external activity and use the subcon check box, this is at OSS right now. But I was wondering if I put the material components in a external activity, how will it be represented in the PO?
Will it be only one item in the PO, the service from the external activity? and inside this item will hold all my material components? this can be found in tab "Material data" -> "Components".
Please share if you have some information about this,
Regards
Jose
PS Note that this scenario is not a MM subcon

abdul,
I'm talking what you can do in the system, there is 3 posibilities I have in mind:
Alternative 1
Is when I will send all the parts, thats right separated parts to be one. The material which will be the final material, is not in my stock/company. It is a new material Im manufacturing with the help of a subcontractor.
In PS I want to create a subcontracting external activity, create a PR from PS, create a PO and deliver it to the receiver in other words the subcontractor who will put it together to the final material.
For this alternative I think I have to create the material which the subcontractor will put together and have it as a head material in a BOM. The BOM will represent the parts Im sending for assembly, so when the material is deliver back to me, I will do a goods receipt of the head material.
My question is in this if I have thought this right, if you have experience of this please contact me.
Alternative 2
Is when I will send a existing material and all the parts which will be use to maintain/repair this particular material from my stock/company to a subcontractor who will do the work. This material will have the same material no. when I do the goods receipt.
In PS I want to create a subcontracting external activity, create a PR from PS, create a PO and deliver it to the receiver in other words the subcontractor who will maintain/repair the material.
For this alternative I think I can use a BOM, create a BOM of this existing material which will be maintain/repair with the parts I will send.
My question is in this if I have thought this right, if you have experience of this please contact me.
Alternative 3
This alternative is almost the same as alternative 2 with the exception that the material Im sending will change the material no when its back from the subcontractor. So I will send a existing material and all the parts which will be use to maintain/repair this particular material from my stock/company to a subcontractor who will do the work. This material will get a new material no. when I do the goods receipt.
In PS I want to create a subcontracting external activity, create a PR from PS, create a PO and deliver it to the receiver in other words the subcontractor who will maintain/repair the material.
For this alternative I think I can use a BOM, create a BOM of this existing material which will be maintain/repair with the parts I will send. Then I have to put the new material in my external activity as a material component with negative quantity as part of the subcontracting delivery
My question is in this if I have thought this right, if you have experience of this please contact me.
I hope my question is now clear for you, we are using the defence and aero solution so what I know I do can use the subcontracting with valuated project stock

J1IS in subcontracting with full payment of excise duty

hi
Can u tell me please
In subcontracting with full payment of excise duty I have created PO,sent material to stock provided to vendor (541).while creating outgoing excise invoice with referance to material doc.(MATD)
i am getting following error.
GL account has not been assigned for MSUSP in customization
Message no. 8I447
Diagnosis
GL account has not been assigned for the excise a/c in customization
I am not getting where to assign G/L
Reg
Roc

hi
please check this customization setting
Logistics - General --> Tax on Goods Movements --> India -->Account Determination
Specify Excise Accounts per Excise Transaction &
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Subcontracting with full payment of excise duty

Hello friends,
Can u plz give the complete configuration details for setting up Subcontracting with full payment of excise duty, Cenvat, Edcess.
Purushotham

Hi,
Process Flow for Sub contracting with Excise duty
1)The purchasing clerk creates a subcontract order for the subcontractors srvices.
2)The warehouseman creates a transfer posting for the materials that you want to send to the subcontractor.
3)The excise clerk creates an outgoing excise invoice for the materials.
4)You send the materials to the subcontractor, together with the excise invoice.
5)The subcontractor processes the materials and returns them to you, together with another excise invoice.
6)The excise clerk captures the subcontractors excise invoice, using the purchase order as the reference document.
7)The warehouseman enters the goods receipt.
8)The excise supervisor posts excise invoice.
The accounts payable clerk posts the subcontractors invoice.
For this one only u require Account dtermination for ETT for OTHER in Logistic general-Tax on goods movement-India-Account determianation.
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Subcontract with full payment of excise duty

hi gurus
Can any one provide me itutor link of subcontract with full payment of excise duty,import cycle,import under custom bonded ware house
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Roc

hi
This is a subcontracting under full payment of duty scenario.
Refer this link
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60_sp/helpdata/en/09/ebf138cdd78a4be10000000a114084/frameset.htm
Subcontracting Under Full Payment of Duty
Purpose
This procedure illustrates how you use the system to send materials to your subcontractors for processing using normal excise invoices.
Prerequisites
You have created a condition type for manually entering excise duty in the subcontract order. In the standard system, you can use condition type JEXC, maintain in pricing procedure.
Process Flow...
1. Create a
tract order for the subcontractoru2019s services.Enter excise manually in the condition type JEXC & take a tax code for VAT calculation.
2. Do the transfer posting for the materials that you want to send to the subcontractor.
3. Create an outgoing excise invoice for the materials by J1IS & J1IV.
4. You send the materials to the subcontractor, together with the excise invoice.
5. The subcontractor processes the materials and returns them to you, together with another excise invoice.
6. Captures the subcontractoru2019s excise invoice, using the purchase order as the reference document.
7. Do the goods receipt & refer excise invoice in excsie tab.
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9. The accounts payable clerk posts the subcontractoru2019s invoice.
for imports
Import scenario
To map Import procedure into SAP , follow the following steps :
1.Create material master of import goods.
2.Create vendor master record of import vendor and Customs clearing vendor.
3.Maintain CIN settings.
4.Maintain J1id.
5.Maintain Pricing procedure SAP standard JIMPOR..,maintain required conditions..JCDB,JCV1...
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http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_01/helpdata/en/95/3ca40a110511d4b5ae006094b9ec21/frameset.htm
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Subcontracting with pay of Excise Duty

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In Subcontracting with pay of Excise Duty,
How much % i have to maintain in Condition Type JEXC & how could i get the accounting entry mention below in MIGO & Excise flow in BED,ECS & SECS fields.
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Hi,
Indeed, in subcontracting process u donot need to pay any excise despite the material sending to the vendor is excisable one. Here in this process:
1. U have to create a subcontract challan with J1IF01 and take a print out of the challan with j1if13 and send with subcon material.
2. Transfer the material from our stocks to subcontractor vendor with 541 movement type.
If the material is not received from the vendor with in 180 days u have to pay the CENVAT credit amount taken at the time of purchasing.
And, u can take the credit again after receiving the material again using J1IFQ.
If it is of inventorised excise type, u donot need to think of it as the values r gets added to the material at the the time of purchasing itself.
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Hi,
Can anybody send me step by step configuration of subcontracting with delivery to my mail id:[email protected]
The following is my scenario.
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MANUPATI KUMAR

Hi,
First Create BOM in Transaction code: CS01, for your Finished product which you want to procure from the SC Vendor........in items you can give the Raw materials you are providing to SC Vendor.....Very Importanly, for the component you want to send to SC Vendor also should have the Sales view....then only the Shipping point determination and all takes place...
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Our system is ERP EHP5 SPS05.
In SPRO under MM - Inventory Management and Physical Inventory -
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Please help.
Thanks.

Dear Kotakonda,
In the IMG activity Activation Switch for SAP R/3 Enterprise Extension Set, activate Extension Set
EA-SCM.
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See also
SAP Note 641298
and link http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/cb/2f26455c59a046a37e58dc3f1ae85e/Chap_09_MM.pdf
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Subcontracting with chargeable components Node missing

Dear Experts,
Our system is ERP EHP5 SPS05.
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Try Transaction code SCC.
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Subcontracting with Chargeable Components

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Regards
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I actually found this one in help.sap.come:
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Subcontracting for Project Stock: -
Purpose: - Subcontracting is also possible in conjunction with Project stocks. The subcontracting orders are account-assigned to a Project. Thus, the components are not transferred (using a transfer posting) to the "stock of material provided to vendor" but are directly withdrawn from the Project stock the time of the goods receipt. The material manufactured is also posted to the Project stock.
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Withdrawal from Stock of Mat. Provided for Project: -
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2. MB1B - Do Transfer Posting of material from RM Warehouse to this Storage Location via movement type "311 Q" (Instead of doing 541)
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Hello,
Can anybody explain me the reasons of using the subcontracting with LE outbound delivery
Regards

HI,
Check the link
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