Sublayers display different layer color from Layer

Can anyone explain to me why sublayers take on different layer colors from the parent layer color? This especially becomes problematic with large files that have lots of layers. As I start grouping and organizing layers, the layer colors become jumbled and it becomes difficult to read. I would expect when I drag a layer into another layer, the new child layer would take on the color of it's parent. Any suggestions on how to maintain layer colors w/out having to open up the layer options each time and choose the parent color?
Christian
Example:

This is "as designed" it has been this way for the last 10 centuries or so... Sorry, no way around it, even if it seems illogical. Perhaps there is some script out thgere that can mass-change such attributes....
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YESSSS !!!!
sanity restored.....you, sir, are a genius.
thankyou.

Secondary Color Correction layer not working in .look file

I needed to edit an image for continuity reasons so I exported a .dpx frame from that section of my premiere pro project and worked on it in speedgrade. In the workflow I have set for myself, it is best to apply the look in after effects using the "apply color lut" function. Unfortunately, the secondary color correction layer does not apply, but other layers such as primary will.

Hi ACD,
After Effects and Photoshop CS6 take .Looks via the LUT engine. That indeed allows for using primaries with low mid high differentiation and should yield really good results.
Secondaries can be expressed in a LUT as well, but I would typically not recommend using them when you want to integrate .Looks with your After Effects workflow. Here's why:
- a LUT is never as precise as you'd want it to be for something as complex as secondary color grading - a LUT is always based on interpolation (as opposed to applying the effect in SpeedGrade - there it's all native, no interpolation at all)
- For a good key you would typically use the denoise and the blur function in the secondaries. Both (by nature) don't translate at all into a LUT, so you'd have to give up using these 2 important tools
- For a lot of work you'd want the LUT to be accompanied by a mask. That's something that also can't be described in a LUT.
Think of the LUT support for .Looks you created in SpeedGrade more as a really helpful tool for matching your comps to an overall look you design, not necessarily as the tool to apply a final grade.
Hope this is helpful.
Pat

Can't move objects from layer to layer

Hi all,
I have been using illustrator for years and only now happened upon this issue. When I try to move on object or text from one layer to another, I a red "Not allowed to do" symbol, to the right side, within that layer.
How can I correct this issue?
Many thanks,
NT

Gary
The objects that I am trying to move, are plane black line drawings, no fills. Every time I drag the small color box (in the layers pallet)from one layer to the next, I get the red cirle with a diagonal line through it. This symbol appears where the layer color should be. The layers are not locked. Thank you for any help you can give me.
NT

Action help to copy color in layer mask to another layer mask

Hi all,
Having trouble with this problem...
I have layer 1 with a color mask set to black, red, blue etc.
I have layer 2 with a color mask which i want to match and also become black, red, blue
There are hundreds of files, and the color in layer 1 is always different.
Manually i would simply click on the layer 2 mask which opens the color picker, and select the area of layer 1 i want to match.
But doing that in an action does not work.
I can't get the action to recognize that i want to copy the color content of a mask, and not the specific color used in the example during which the macro is recorded. The color picker does not seem capable of selecting a dynamic input (e.g. whatever color is on layer 1), it simply copies whatever was in layer 1 during recording like a dumb instrument.
thanks for any input.

Not sure what you mean by color mask, but I just noticed cs6 seems to have a new feature in the actions tab dropdown menu (small top right button) called 'allow tool recording'.
I just tried to make an eyedropper action with that option turned on and now the color does change when I change the image colors and run the action again.
Hope this helps.

PS Script - Change Layer Color

This Is My First Post Here, So Hello Everyone,
Hope I Am Posting In The Right Section,
I Have A Photoshop File Which Looks Like Shown Above..
The Text 1 2 3 ...15 Are Different Layers..
And The Boxes Are Different Layers, Named i1 i2 i3 ...... i15
I Want To Write A Script That Will Change The Color Of Boxes (Actually This Is Legend Section For A Pie Chart)
I Want To Write Very Hard-Coded Script, Nothing Dynamic,
Like
layer[i1].color = #9f13a8
layer[i2].color = #520457
layer[i3].color = #cc626c
layer[i4].color = #aa5705
I Tried Searching Around, But Very Less Help Available On ps-script And Complicated Examples....
I Just Want Some Simple Lines, How To Easily Reference A Layer By Name And Change The Color (Forecolor, I Guess)
I Wrote This But It Does Not Works
var myDocument = app.activeDocument;
var myLayer;
myLayer=myDocument.artLayers.getByName("i1");
myLayer.color="#9f13a8";
I Don't Know If .artLayers Is Only For Text Layers Or Something.. I Found It In An Example...
Thanks

If you want to apply a pattern you can use scriptlistener to generate the code. It might be best to create the shape first by either drawing it or by using scriptlistener to generate the code, then use scriptlistener to generate code to change the fill pattern. This way you can use that code for any type of shape layer: oval, rectangle, etc. If you don't want a dialog box, you will have to find both the name and id number for the pattern used - again, this will show up using scriptlistener. If you want have a dialog box come up and be able to select which pattern you want to use, change the last line of the scriptlistener code to:
executeAction( idsetd, desc10, DialogModes.ALL );
But be sure to reset the dialog mode to No after that line. Here's an example of the code for changing a pattern:
#target photoshop
var idsetd = charIDToTypeID( "setd" );
    var desc10 = new ActionDescriptor();
    var idnull = charIDToTypeID( "null" );
        var ref2 = new ActionReference();
        var idcontentLayer = stringIDToTypeID( "contentLayer" );
        var idOrdn = charIDToTypeID( "Ordn" );
        var idTrgt = charIDToTypeID( "Trgt" );
        ref2.putEnumerated( idcontentLayer, idOrdn, idTrgt );
    desc10.putReference( idnull, ref2 );
    var idT = charIDToTypeID( "T " );
        var desc11 = new ActionDescriptor();
        var idPtrn = charIDToTypeID( "Ptrn" );
            var desc12 = new ActionDescriptor();
            var idNm = charIDToTypeID( "Nm " );
            desc12.putString( idNm, """$$$/Presets/Patterns/Patterns_pat/TieDye=Tie Dye""" );//pattern name
            var idIdnt = charIDToTypeID( "Idnt" );
            desc12.putString( idIdnt, """1b29876b-58b7-11d4-b895-a898787104c1""" );//pattern ID number
        var idPtrn = charIDToTypeID( "Ptrn" );
        desc11.putObject( idPtrn, idPtrn, desc12 );
    var idpatternLayer = stringIDToTypeID( "patternLayer" );
    desc10.putObject( idT, idpatternLayer, desc11 );
executeAction( idsetd, desc10, DialogModes.ALL );//Change the NO to ALL
app.displayDialogs = DialogModes.NO;//Make sure you reset!!!

What is color burn layer?

I was reading one of techniques for removing blue haze from pictures.
The initial two steps were as follows:
1. Click on your color burn layer
2. Select all and copy the color burn layer only to the clipboard
I have never used "color burn layer". So I have no idea what "color burn layer" is and how to create it.
Please asvise me how to creaste color burn layer.
I have photoshop CS5 (with Windows 7).

It is not a tutorial. Somebody asked the question in a photo forum.
I now lost the original webpage but I copied the anwer as follows:
Click on your color burn layer
Select all and copy the color burn layer only to the
clipboard
Open a Hue/saturation adjustment layer but make no corrections just press OK.
Alt click on the Hue/adjustment layers mask this will make the screen go white.
Edit> paste... this will paste the color burn layer to the mask.
We must reverse the mask now so press Ctrl+I or Image>Adjustment>Inverse
Click on the adjustment part of the hue/saturation or Alt click on the mask again.
Now reduce saturation by moving the saturation slider to the left.
My question is how to careate color burn layer in CS5 photoshop.

Same colors display differently between Illustrator and Photoshop

Hi there,
I would love to know why the same colors display differently between my Photoshop and Illustrator apps (CS3). For example, a logo will display much darker or more vividly in Illustrator than in Photoshop, same file, same colour values. My color settings are synchronized from Adobe Bridge to North American Pre Press 2. I've opened the logo file in RGB color mode, in both apps. It would be so helpful if both apps displayed the colours consistently.
Any suggestions on how to do this would be wonderful!
Thanks!
Bobbie

Hello Bobbie,
I am using CS3 too and let me tell you that this Illustrator version is the worst ever. You best bet is to take the "Eye Drop" tool and select the Photoshop element to match the color.
CS4 also have problems when handle placed items. Sadly I can tell you that CS2 is more reliable than CS3 and CS4.
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