Subnets on an airport extreme

Hi,
I am trying to setup a mac mini using ethernet to a different subnet to the rest of the wireless network connected machines in the house. Can someone please explain how to configure the Airport Extreme to do this ?
A

If you have a dual band AirPort Extreme with Guest Network capabilty, the only way that you will be able to do what you want is have all of the wireless devices connect to the Guest Network and then connect the Mac Mini using Ethernet to the AirPort Extreme.
The Mini will be on a different subnet than the Guest Network. Devices on the Guest Network will not be able to "see" the devices on the other network and vice-versa.
Here, I am assuming that the dual band AirPort Extreme is connecting to a simple modem....not a modem/router combination furnished by most service providers, which most users call a modem. It is more than that.
To see if you might be able to setup devices on a Guest Network with your AirPort Extreme......
Open Macintosh HD > Applications > Utlities > AirPort Utility
Click Manual Setup
Look for a Guest Network tab under the row of icons, next to the Wireless tab. If you do not see a Guest Network tab, your Airport Exteme is connected to a modem/router, and you will not be able to use the Guest Network function.

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1) Connecting to the Time Capsule for setup. MUST I use Airport Utility or is there another method?
AirPort Utility is the only application available to configure the Time Capsule
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During setup, you specify how you would like the device to connect, Ethernet or PPPoE
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4. Restart everything.
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Dear Group,
I have my Extreme configured to do PPPoE and DHCP and my DSL modem is setup as bridged. Everything is finally working well. I have an Express extending the Extreme in a WDS.
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This really isn't an issue as long as the AirPort Extreme base station (AEBS) is providing a working Internet connection. Since the AEBS is using PPPoE to connect to your ISP I'm not sure that the subnet mask is even used.
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AirPort Extreme Update 2007-004 did not solve my reliability problems.

The latest update from Apple did not fix the problem on my system, and now I don´t know what I should do, is there anything I can do to somehow fix it?
I can´t use the computer like this, it´s very annoying, for example I can´t browse the web with Safari(constant "Failed to open page" or "You´re not connected to the internet" messages), ethernet is not an option, besides, what´s the point of a laptop if I cannot connect to the network wirelessly?
This is my first MacBook by the way, I like its look & feel, easy of use and integration, but this AirPort issue completely took away the "just works" image I had of Apple´s products.
Don´t get me wrong though, I knew the Mac was not going to be perfect, and that there would be problems(as usual), but I would never have expected something like this.
I´d really like to get this thing to work, the Mac pretty much offers the kind of integration that I´ve always wanted in Linux.
Anyway.. am I the only one whose system is still having problems with AirPort?
What can I do to fix this?
Should I just wait until Apple releases another bug fix for this? how long would this take?
Should I return this MacBook to an Apple store?
I bought this in the U.S. and there is no store on my country(Uruguay), there´re however some Apple Authorized Service Providers, should I take it to them? would they give me a brand new Mac or repair this one for free if I´m covered by the warranty?
I read(http://www.apple.com/support/contact/) that since I´m still within the 90 days of ownership I can call Apple Technical support, but since they don´t have a number for my country, is there an alternative way of contacting them?(via email?).
I don´t know.. what do you people think I shoud do?
+Please don´t recommend me to install an older version, I really don´t want to, besides how do I know it will fix the issue?+
About the problem:
Symptoms:
AirPort signal level randomly decreases until connection is lost, and there is no automatic reconnection.
Manual reconnection is required and might not always succeed, and even if it does, it doesn´t last long(usually less than 3 minutes).
Sometimes the network is missing from the menu(when clicking the wifi icon on status bar) and turning off and on AirPort is required.
Judging from what I´ve read here and found on google, this is a known common problem that dates back to at least april 2007(see [1]).
*Some (useful?) Information:*
0) It might have worked better before updating (10.4.9 is the version of my Installation discs, I didn´t reinstall) to 10.4.10, but I can´t say for sure.
1) According to [1] this seems to be a software problem in OS X, since the atheros driver works fine under Windows.
2) It doesn´t matter if the laptop is running from battery or not, and it doesn´t seem to be related to waking from sleep state since it happens on a clean restart too.
3) Once in a while, the OS asks me to enter the WPA passphrase again to connect to the network, why does it do this if the passphrase is already stored inside the default login keychain?. (entering the passphrase again does not fix the problem)
4) Wireless router is a speedtouch modem, it´s properly configured and it´s known to work, its leds indicate that everything is ok.
5) The MacBook is approx. 6m away from the speedtouch router(walls in between), electronic devices: headless computer next to the speedtouch modem, printer, radio, tv (note: not that it matters since the laptop has worked from this location before).
6) System Info: (forums display issues, does not show ok)
Hardware:
+Mac OS X 10.4.10+
+Model Identifier: MacBook2,1+
+Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo+
+Processor Speed: 2 GHz+
+Number Of Processors: 1+
+Total Number Of Cores: 2+
+L2 Cache (per processor): 4 MB+
+Memory: 1 GB+
+Bus Speed: 667 MHz+
+Boot ROM Version: MB21.00A5.B06+
+SMC Version: 1.17f0+
+Serial Number: W87190VFYA2+
+Sudden Motion Sensor:+
+State: Enabled+
Network:
AirPort:
+Type: AirPort+
+Hardware: AirPort+
+BSD Device Name: en1+
+IPv4 Addresses: 192.168.1.68+
IPv4:
+Addresses: 192.168.1.68+
+Configuration Method: DHCP+
+Interface Name: en1+
+Router: 192.168.1.254+
+Subnet Masks: 255.255.255.0+
DNS:
+Domain Name: lan+
+Server Addresses: 192.168.1.254+
+DHCP Server Responses:+
+Domain Name: lan+
+Domain Name Servers: 192.168.1.254+
+Lease Duration (seconds): 0+
+DHCP Message Type: 0x05+
+Routers: 192.168.1.254+
+Server Identifier: 192.168.1.254+
+Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0+
Proxies:
+Proxy Configuration Method: Manual+
+ExcludeSimpleHostnames: 0+
+FTP Passive Mode: Yes+
+Auto Discovery Enabled: No+
Ethernet:
+MAC Address: 00:1b:63:08:c0:87+
+Media Options: +
+Media Subtype: autoselect+
+AirPort Card Information:+
+Wireless Card Type: AirPort Extreme (0x168C, 0x87)+
+Wireless Card Locale: USA+
+Wireless Card Firmware Version: 1.1.9.3+
+Current Wireless Network: SpeedTouch824916+
+Wireless Channel: 1+
7) logs (not good debug info, but maybe it helps...)
Before last update (from /var/log/system.log)
+Aug 1 01:36:21 Federico-Zagarzaz-s-Computer mDNSResponder: Repeated transitions for interface lo0 (127.0.0.1);+
+delaying packets by 5 seconds+
+Aug 1 01:39:14 Federico-Zagarzaz-s-Computer ntpd[158]: sendto(17.254.0.26): Can't assign requested address+
+Aug 1 01:39:31 Federico-Zagarzaz-s-Computer /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Apple80211.framework/Resources/ai+
+rport: Error: WirelessAssociate2() = 88001006 for network SpeedTouch824916. The operation timed out.+
+Aug 1 01:39:39 Federico-Zagarzaz-s-Computer /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Apple80211.framework/Resources/ai+
+rport: Error: WirelessAssociate2() = 88001006 for network SpeedTouch824916. The operation timed out.+
+Aug 1 01:39:39 Federico-Zagarzaz-s-Computer /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Apple80211.framework/Resources/ai+
+rport: Error: WirelessAssociate2() = 88001003 for network SpeedTouch824916. errWirelessKernelError.+
+Aug 1 01:39:39 Federico-Zagarzaz-s-Computer /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Apple80211.framework/Resources/ai+
+rport: Error: WirelessCreateScanResults() = 8800100b+
+Aug 1 01:39:50 Federico-Zagarzaz-s-Computer configd[35]: Error: Failed to join most recent network "SpeedTouch8+
+24916", err=88001006 (will search for any others)+
+Aug 1 01:39:50 Federico-Zagarzaz-s-Computer /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Apple80211.framework/Resources/ai+
+rport: Currently connected to network SpeedTouch824916+
After last update:
+Aug 1 07:01:37 Federico-Zagarzaz-s-Computer configd[60]: Error: Failed to join most recent network "SpeedTouch824916", err=88001006 (will search for any others)+
+Aug 1 07:01:48 Federico-Zagarzaz-s-Computer /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Apple80211.framework/Resources/airport: Could not find "SpeedTouch824916" on any channel (directed scan)+
+Aug 1 07:01:48 Federico-Zagarzaz-s-Computer /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Apple80211.framework/Resources/airport: Could not find "SpeedTouch824916" on channel(s) 1+
+Aug 1 07:02:20 Federico-Zagarzaz-s-Computer /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Apple80211.framework/Versions/A/Resources/air port: Error: WirelessAssociate2() = 88001006 for network SpeedTouch824916. The operation timed out.+
+Aug 1 07:02:29 Federico-Zagarzaz-s-Computer /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Apple80211.framework/Versions/A/Resources/air port: Error: WirelessAssociate2() = 88001006 for network SpeedTouch824916. The operation timed out.+
+Aug 1 07:02:38 Federico-Zagarzaz-s-Computer /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Apple80211.framework/Versions/A/Resources/air port: Error: WirelessAssociate2() = 88001006 for network SpeedTouch824916. The operation timed out.+
8) Settings: (forums display issues, does not show ok)
+unknown-00-1b-63-08-c0-87:~ fede$ cat /Library/Preferences/SystemConfiguration/com.apple.airport.preferences.plist+
+<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>+
+<!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple Computer//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd">+
.+<plist version="1.0">+
.<dict>
. <key>AllowEnable</key>
. <integer>1</integer>
. +<key>Always remember new networks</key>+
. <integer>1</integer>
. +<key>Default 802.1X Configurations</key>+
. <array>
. <dict>
. <key>AcceptEAPTypes</key>
. <array>
. <integer>25</integer>
. <integer>21</integer>
. <integer>43</integer>
. </array>
. <key>Description</key>
. <string>Automatic</string>
. <key>EAPFASTProvisionPAC</key>
. <integer>1</integer>
. <key>EAPFASTUsePAC</key>
. <integer>1</integer>
. <key>TLSVerifyServerCertificate</key>
. <integer>1</integer>
. <key>TTLSInnerAuthentication</key>
. <string>MSCHAPv2</string>
. </dict>
. <dict>
. <key>AcceptEAPTypes</key>
. <array>
. <integer>21</integer>
. </array>
. <key>Description</key>
. +<string>TTLS - PAP</string>+
. <key>TLSVerifyServerCertificate</key>
. <integer>1</integer>
. <key>TTLSInnerAuthentication</key>
. <string>PAP</string>
. </dict>
. </array>
. +<key>Disconnect on logout</key>+
. <integer>0</integer>
. +<key>Fallback Preference</key>+
. <integer>0</integer>
. <key>InterferenceRobustness</key>
. <integer>0</integer>
. <key>JoinMode</key>
. <integer>0</integer>
. +<key>List of known networks</key>+
. <array>
. <dict>
. <key>AuthPasswordEncryption</key>
. <string>SystemKeychain</string>
. <key>SCAN_CHANNELS</key>
. <array>
. <integer>1</integer>
. </array>
. <key>SSID</key>
. <data>
. U3BlZWRUb3VjaDgyNDkxNg==
. </data>
. <key>SecurityType</key>
. +<string>WPA Personal</string>+
. <key>WEPKeyLen</key>
. <integer>32</integer>
. <key>_timeStamp</key>
. <date>2007-07-02T07:49:11Z</date>
. <key>authMode</key>
. <integer>2</integer>
. <key>capability</key>
. <integer>16</integer>
. <key>channel</key>
. <integer>1</integer>
. <key>cipherMode</key>
. <integer>2</integer>
. <key>isIBSS</key>
. <integer>0</integer>
. <key>isWPA</key>
. <integer>1</integer>
. <key>multiCipher</key>
. <integer>3</integer>
. <key>name</key>
. <string>SpeedTouch824916</string>
. <key>scanWasDirected</key>
. <true/>
. </dict>
. </array>
. +<key>Require Admin for IBSS creation</key>+
. <integer>0</integer>
. +<key>Require Admin for network change</key>+
. <integer>0</integer>
. <key>Version</key>
. <integer>5</integer>
.</dict>
.</plist>
9)
.+unknown-00-1b-63-08-c0-87:~ fede$ /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Apple80211.framework/Versions/A/Resources/air port -I+
. +commQuality: 0+
. +rawQuality: 10+
. +avgSignalLevel: -89+
. +avgNoiseLevel: -96+
. +linkStatus: ESS+
. +portType: Client+
. +lastTxRate: 2+
. +maxRate: 54+
.+lastAssocStatus: 1+
. +BSSID: 00:14:7f:30:56:75+
. +SSID: SpeedTouch824916+
. +Security: WPA PSK cipher: TKIP+
10) Software Update.log
+2007-07-02 01:17:51 -0300: Installed "Pages Update" (2.0.2)+
+2007-07-02 01:17:54 -0300: Installed "Keynote Update" (3.0.2)+
+2007-07-02 01:18:04 -0300: Installed "iPhoto Update" (6.0.6)+
+2007-07-02 01:18:24 -0300: Installed "QuickTime" (7.1.6)+
+2007-07-02 09:57:07 -0300: Installed "iTunes" (7.3)+
+2007-07-02 09:57:09 -0300: Installed "Security Update 2007-006 (Universal)" (1.0)+
+2007-07-02 09:59:26 -0300: Installed "Mac OS X Update (Intel)" (10.4.10)+
+2007-07-26 21:56:29 -0300: Installed "QuickTime" (7.2)+
+2007-07-26 22:21:30 -0300: Installed "iTunes" (7.3.1)+
+2007-07-26 22:21:34 -0300: Installed "Audio Update 2007-001" (1.0)+
+2007-08-01 02:53:00 -0300: Installed "AirPort Extreme Update 2007-004" (1.0)+
Don´t know if it helps or not, but that is all I could find.
Thank you for taking the time to read this.
Best Regards,
Federico
References:
[1] http://www.macfixitforums.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=wireless&Number=823491&For um=&Words=&Match=Entire%20Phrase&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Old=1day&Main=810572&Sear ch=true
[2] http://www.appletell.com/apple/comment/unconfirmed-airport-issues-with-mac-os-x- 10410/
[3] http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1008143&tstart=0
[4] http://www.macfixitforums.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=wireless&Number=823491&For um=&Words=&Match=Entire%20Phrase&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Old=1day&Main=810572&Sear ch=true
Message was edited by: fzagarzazu (forums display issues)

Hi,
Well I don´t know what to think now.. I installed the last security update, restarted, went to sleep and now it seems to be working much better, at least there doesn´t seem to be so many drop outs.
I find it a little strange that the airport icon on the status bar that shows signal strength keeps changing, but maybe this is normal behaviour?, don´t know..
I can´t say that the problem is fixed either since I didn´t start to experience airport issues immediately after I updated to 10.4.10, so who knows?
Maybe it works for two days in a row and then it suddenly starts malfunctioning for no apparent reason.
It could be very well be a combination of little problems here and there(some even caused by me editing system preferences) that add up and manifest as a bigger problem, I´ve no idea how to trace it, and as long as it works, I don´t care..
I doubt this will help anyone, but anyway.. the last thing I remember doing before restarting was executing:
# System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Apple80211.framework/Versions/A/Resources/airp ort --updateprefs
which examines network preferences and repairs them if necessary.
Then I went into System Preferences > Network, AirPort´s options and restored default settings, after that I configured it to require administrator password to "Create Computer-to-Computer networks".
I´m hoping that the whole airport issue not working after the last airport update was a weird glitch or even better, caused by me.
If it starts malfunctioning again, I´ll simply call AppleCare and let them deal with it, by the way, it kind of ***** that the only way of contacting them is via phone and no phone number is listed for my country.. no email address? ...
Best Regards,
Federico

Airport Extreme 2nd Gen - can not retrieve or assign an IP address

I had two 2nd gen Airport Extreme base stations. One connects to the internet, the other bridges the network to my office where I have wired devices connected. The office base station was no longer allowing me to connect to my USB drive for time machine backups, but all of the wired devices were routing to the internet properly.
I purchased a new base station (5th gen), bringing my total to three extreme stations and two express base stations (one express for an old wired network printer, the other for streaming music).
The old main base station is moved into the office, and the new base station (5th gen) becomes the "main" internet access point. I reset both devices and they install without a hiccup. Ditto the new express stations - they connect without having to reset them. Everything works as it did before the upgrade.
I take the old office base station (the one that would not allow me to backup via time machine) and do a factory reset. It reboots, the light flashes yellow (not surprising). I hook an old macbook (10.6.8) up to the old base station (and turned off the wifi) using a wired ethernet cable the ethernet port is assigned an IP address (10.0.1.2) via DHCP. My other macbook pro (10.8.5) running the latest AirPort Utility sees the old base station using wifi (under other wifi network). I select the old base station it automatically connects it to my new base station stating:
"This Airport Extreme will now be set up to extend <my new 5th gen AirPort Extreme base station>"
I change the default name and click next.
Now when the old office base station boots it will not connect to the network - it still flashes yellow. It will not assign itself an IP address, the macbook plugged into the ethernet port (using dhcp) shows (under network settings):
"Ethernet has a self-assigned IP address and will not be able to connect to the internet."
(the 169.... number)
Now the funky part. I manually set the wired ethernet's IP4 configuration (IP, subnet, router and dns server) on the old Macbook running snow leapord (10.6.8) - remember the wifi is turned off - and bingo - I am connected to the internet. All the while my old AirPort Exreme continues to blink yellow. If I manually assign an IP address to the AirPort Exreme's light turns green.
Clearly the old device is working. The ethernet port works, the wifi works - routing traffic from the wired ethernet through my home network and out to the internet. My AirPort utility on all my macs can see the base station, and can configure it (via wifi). I have even tried (via wifi) downgrading the firmware to 7.6.3 and then to 7.6.0 and the back up to 7.6.4. The only thing it will not do is give retrieve an IP address, or assign an IP address to wired devices.
Any ideas?

I attempted to see/access (via the Disk Utility on my iMac) two drives already connected to my AirPort Extreme, but could not.
These drives are shared "network" drives, which Disk Utility cannot access. Disk Utility will only be able to access a drive if it is connected directly to a Mac.
If you need to format the drive(s), partition them, etc., you must do so with the drive connected directly to the Mac, then move them to the USB powered hub location at the AirPort Extreme.
These drives are available through the Finder and are used for Time Machine
Apple does not officially support Time Machine backups to a drive connected to the AirPort Extreme, but some users seem to be able to make this work.
1) Can I see/access USB drives (properly fomatted and visible/accessible in the Finder window) attached to my AirPort Extreme (2nd gen-firmware version 7.6.2)via a powered USB hub?
Probably. Some users find that one powered hub will work for them while another might not. To "see" the drives, you must first click on the AirPort Extreme icon under the SHARED heading in the Finder. Then, if the drives are formatted in Mac OS Extended (Journaled), each drive will appear as a folder. Double click the folder name to mount the drive on the desktop.
2) Can I use my iMac (running Lion 10.7.4) to create a concatenated disk set with USB drives (of varying size) attached to my AirPort Extreme via a powered USB hub?
The drives will all appear as separate drives, which must be accessed separately. If you were thinking of trying to start Time Machine backups on one drive and have them continue automatically on another drive when the first drive is full, that will not work.

Can i use another router to extend my wireless network of my airport extreme?

i have a billion router (moddel BiPAC 7300W) I just got myself the airport extreme, i want to use the extreme as the main router and extend the network using the billion router.
steps i have followed on the extreme is as follows:
INTERNET
connection sharing: Distrobute a range of IP addresses
cofig IPv4:set to my home network range(manually) - ip,subnet,router,dns
DHCP
access control: mac address of billion router set to all day every day
steps i have followed on the billion router:
disabled NAT
disabled DHCP
ethernet address: same range as extreme ip, actual ip op extreme is xxx.xxx.xxx.254, on billion xxx.xxx.xxx.253
disabled RIP
set wireless mode to 802.11b+g+n
channel id: auto
channel width:20/40mhz
disable wps
disable vmm
Wireless Distribution System (WDS) - added the 3 mac addresses the utility displayed, 5ghz and 2.4ghz and also the ethernet.
restarted both routers, not picking up all the devices connected to the network.
can any one please help me?

i want to use the extreme as the main router and extend the network using the billion router.
Unfortunately, WDS was never adopted as an official standard in the industry, so very few routers from other manufacturers are known to be compatible with Apple's WDS settings. The known devices are as follows:
Belkin F5D7230-4 and F5D7231
BT Voyager 2091 or 2100
Buffalo WGR-G54
Linksys WRT54G or WRT54GS (through version v4)
Netgear WGR614 v6
Thompson 585v6 wireless router (40 bit WEP works but stronger encryption does not)
connection sharing: Distrobute a range of IP addresses
You would not use this setting unless your service provider has furnished you with a specific range of IP addresses to use for your devices. Is that the case?
Normally, when the AirPort Extreme is functioning as the "main" router, the setting for Connection Sharing is set to "Share a public IP address"
Wireless Distribution System (WDS) - added the 3 mac addresses the utility displayed, 5ghz and 2.4ghz and also the ethernet.
You indicated that you had configured things this way on the Billion router. But, you did not indicate whether you had set the Wireless Mode for the AirPort Extreme to "Participate in a WDS Arrangement".
If you have not already done so, this might improve your chances of establishing a connection between the AirPort Extreme and Billion router for the WDS.
To access these settings on the AirPort Extreme, you would need to open AirPort Utility and click Manual Setup. Then click the Wireless tab just below the row of icons. Change the setting for Wireless Mode to "Participate in a WDS Arrangement".
Note....you may need to hold down the option key on your Mac, (or it might be alt or control if you are using a PC) to display the WDS setting.
Once you do this, then a WDS tab will now appear next to the Wireless tab. Click on the WDS tab to set up the AirPort Extreme as the WDS Main and enter the MAC address of the Billion router.
As I mentioned previously, it is extremely unlikely that the Apple and Billion devices will be compatible for WDS, but probably worth a try....since you never know when something just might work.
Even if it does....WDS operates only at "g" wireless speeds, so you will lose any of the faster "n" speed capabilities of the AirPort Extreme in this type of setting.
Please post on your results.

Argh! Trying to Replace Linksys with New Airport Extreme...

Been fighting with this for hours...about ready to take the new Airport Extreme back ...Here's the deal:
I currently have a very wired and wireless 2story home professinally set up with 2 Linksys devices as the primary network and a couple previous generation airport expresses as extenders.   Due to video, audio and other systems the primary router for the network/WAN closet out in the garage needs to remain on the primary Linksys (non wifi) router. I want to replace the Linksys Wifi router (see below) that is puposely set up and has worked for several years as a double NAT config with the new Airport Extreme but i have tried duplicatiing the exact configs from the Linksys router and all the various ways you can use the Airport Express in DHCP/NAT and even in Bridge mode and it still wont work! I've never considered Linksys software easier (and definately more flexible and informative) to use than Apple until this experience! Very frustrating.... I'm being very explicit and using the typical Linksys config profiles below so as to hopefully help you translate this into specific configs i can wrangle into the Airport Extreme to make it work like the
Current Primary Network:
Current WAN Router / + 24 Port Switched LAN Network (for wired ethernet access ports used throughout house) > Linksys BEFSX41 + Linksys 24 port Switch locted in a custom built data /video / audio closet in garage
WAN IP: DHCP
LAN IP: 192.168.1.1
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Current WiFI Network > Linksys WRT160Nv2 (currently conected to the 24port switch via a hardwired ethernet wall port upstairs in my office)
Internet Connection Type: Static IP
WAN IP: 192.168.1.2
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
LAN IP: 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Per config notes from the network engineer who i worked with to build this network when i built the house
"this allows the 192.168.0.x wifi device to successfully route to the 192.168.1.x wired router (and vice versa)"
My goal is to replace the Linksys WRT160Nv2 with the new Airport Extreme (whose range and ability to reach both upsatirs and outside to the beach is MUCH better) and locate it DOWNSTAIRS and connect it in the same way as the Linksys (via an ethernet port in the living room) to the same switch / router in the data closet.
I have tried to set up the new Airport Extreme to replicate this config several different ways both bridged and not bridged (including telling it to ignore the double NAT warning) with the latest.   I am pretty sure non-bridged is the right way to do it but i seem to lack a config parameter to tell the Airport Extreme to replicate the equivalent of the WRT160Nv2 settings despite trating all the submenues and options on the airport extreme set up / Airport Utility App. Do i have to telnet directly into the Airport Extreme config files to do this natively? Help!
PS - no i cannot / will not put the Airport Extreme in to replace the primary Linksys router in the data closet - there is no way it will fit or that its wifi could penetrate the EMI and insulation of all the other electronics in the data closet out in the garage and get a good connection into the house

The trick on the airport extreme is to change the DHCP .. when you change the DHCP it changes the actual IP of the AE..
So go to the setup and open the dhcp, in the network options and you can select by arrow the first two octets and replace the third.
I just posted info on this in another post..
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5134560?tstart=30
Does this answer your question, as I am a bit unclear otherwise??
I have to say I do not like using double NAT.. it is becoming worse and worse as the amount of material on the internet that requires interactive connection increases.. you block so much by doing this.. double NAT is an issue .. not just ignore the warning.
There is no reason why you need double NAT.. you should have a single flat network. If you need to keep some things isolated from others the correct way to do it is vlan.. but you will need a better router than the old linksys to do it. And possibly a managed switch. Nowadays a managed 24 port gigabit switch is not a bad price at all.

How to configure home network with Airport Extreme + D-Link DIR-665

*hello everyone,*
*I had these two working fine together until the D-Link took a dump the other day. No explanation. Just stopped working until I reconfigured everything.*
*Which then led to my Airport Extreme being unable to connect to the network at all, much less the internet...*
*My home network is set up like this:*
*Optimum Cable*
*Motorola Surfboard modem --> D-Link DIR-655 (via ethernet)*
*- Provides wifi and ethernet connections on one side of my house*
*DIR-655 --> Airport Extreme (via ethernet run to other side of house)*
*- Provides wifi and ethernet connections on the other side of my house*
*My MBP won't connect to anything other than my AE running N, so I have that set up primarily for my MBP over wifi, while feeding an ethernet connection to a Netgear router running B/G, for my iPhone and other devices.*
**So here are the relative details:**
*I decided to start fresh and do a factory default configuration with my Airport Extreme. My working system from earlier was essentially it's own wifi network, but the airport utility 'insists' that I need to run my AE in bridge mode. I've tried that, but I can't get online. I can see my shared connections, so something's getting through, but I cannot connect to them, in addition to being unable to get online.*
*I'm not really sure how to best illustrate this problem, so I've ran through the process again and jotted down a few notes. Excuse the rambling nature of my narrative, this is a 'blow by blow' account of the Airport Utility setup process:*
Airport version 7.4.2
IP address 192.168.0.192
router address: 192.168.0.2
Configuring over Airport connection.
- I want AE to join my current network
-.. connect AE to my network using ethernet to extend or create second network
- select device AE will connect to using ethernet - DIR-655 network (displayed w/ airport icon?)
- create an additional network (through ethernet)
AE updates..
- problem 1 of 1 : unsecured wireless network
wpa wpa2
Bridge mode or share a single IP address using DHCP
selected bridge mode
results: AE has green light, airport utility is satisfied but no connection to network is possible. Shared connections are visible, but unable to access
next try:
manual setup
Wireless mode: create wireless network
radio mode: 802.11n only (5 GHz)
channel: auto
wireless security: WPA2 personal
(bridge mode still active)
(this is the exact setup that worked for years before..)
updated…
AE light is green, but no connection to internet or shared connections (though visible)
back to airport utility
manual setup:
internet menu:
connection sharing: share a public IP address
update
--> 2 problems
DHCP Beginning address: 192.168.0.2
DHCP Ending Address: 192.168.0.2
chose 'assist me'
(now one shared connection to Mac Mini becomes active? Had selected it earlier. Able to browse folders, but not share screen)
AE refreshed now with amber light, with reported problems
Problem 1 of 2: Internet Connection
Your Apple Wireless device does not have a valid IP address. Make sure your Apple wireless device is connected to your broadband modem or local network… etc
- changed IP address to match router IP address (?) Utility goes on to next problem
Problem 2 of 2: Conflicting DHCP Range
This Apple wireless device rejected a DHCP address in the same subnet as its internal DHCP server. You should probably switch your Apple wireless device to be in bridge mode. If you still want to be using DHCP and NAT to share a single IP address, you should change your DHCP range.
- maintain selection: share a single IP address using DHCP and NAT (utility forces you to: ignore; skip; or select bridge mode - which doesn't work..)
- chose 'skip' for problem 2
- updated AE..
New problem:
Problem 1 of 1: Double NAT
This Apple wireless device has a private IP address on its Ethernet WAN port. It is connected to a device or network that is using Network Address Translation (NAT) to provide private IP addresses. you should change you Apple wireless device from using DHCP and NAT to bridge mode.
- selected Bridge Mode
updated AE…
"Setup Complete!"
Unable to connect.
** At this point, I am still able to see my shared connections, and while iTunes is open, I can play my shared library that is on my Mac Pro, which connected to the DIR-665 via ethernet, through yet another D-Link router (DIR-615)! I am still connected to the Airport Extreme via wireless, so the system is working, to an extent.*
*So I'm not sure what to do. How can I remedy my IP address issue? Bridge mode doesn't work (as far as I've experienced), so I'm struggling with my DHCP settings..*
*Thanks to anyone who has any suggestions!*

Hi Preston,
I would recommend not starting the numbering scheme for the IP addresses using a '0'. Yes the range is 0-255, but some numbers are reserved, and not generally good practice.
Also, assuming you have reset all factory defaults, start anew and have the modem --> router using NAT for dynamic IP addresses --> (other side of the house) Airport Extreme --> not a NAT configuration, but you need a simple switch. Do not use the NAT capabilities on this one. Maybe, just maybe the computer will work now. This will eliminate your double NAT and also help (hopefully) with the D-Link.
Sorry I cannot help more, I do not own any of the products you talk about, however I have networking experience. Hope it helps.
--Morris

Can I create a unique subnetwork when extending a wireless network using Airport Extreme?

My office building has an Airport Extreme to provide wifi to our individual suites. I would like to create a sub-network using my Airport Extreme for my suite only that uses the wifi signal from our office building and provides internet to the computers (both wired and wireless) in my suite but have it protected so that other suites in my building can't see my computers. Is this possible and how do I do it? I have currently set up my Airport Extreme in wifi-mode "extending a previous wireless network" and have the router with its unique router name. But once I extended the wireless network, I could not find the network name of my router, only the office name (the one I was extending). The computers connected via ethernet to my Airport have internet access but none of my wireless computers see my airport name, it sees the office building network name. I'm assuming they are connecting to my Airport since the signal level is much higher than before and it appears that my Airport is rebroadcasting the network name of my office building. Is there a way to have my Airport broadcast its unique identifier for wifi, still connect to the internet via wifi signal to the Office building airport and maintain segregation between my computers and the rest of my office building?
Also, when I use the Airport Utility on my Iphone, I see the internet -> the office airport extreme -> and then 2 different base stations connected in a Y. Mine and my neighbors (who is probably doing the same thing as I am). But there is a dotted line to my base station, does that mean I'm connected to the internet via my neighbor's airport?
Any thoughts?

I would like to create a sub-network using my Airport Extreme for my suite only that uses the wifi signal from our office building and provides internet to the computers (both wired and wireless) in my suite but have it protected so that other suites in my building can't see my computers.
It is not possible to configure a single Apple AirPort router in this manner using wireless only, but it would be possible to do this with a single AirPort if you connect your AirPort Extreme to the "main" router using a wired Ethernet connection.
As for wireless only....you could probably do what you want by using two Apple routers....an AirPort Express to join the wireless network and provide an Ethernet signal to the AirPort Extreme's WAN port. Then the AirPort Extreme could then be configured to provide a separate network using a different subnet.
Users on the "main" network would not be able to "see" any devices on your "private" network and vice versa.
I use the two router set up all the time at hotels that only provide a wireless signal. The first Express "joins" the wireless network and feeds an Ethernet signal to the second AirPort which is configured to "create a wireless network" in router mode.
This way, I can connect multiple devices to my "private" network, but only pay the hotel for one connection since the hotel router only "sees" the AirPort Express that joins the network.

How do I connect a PC via ethernet to my new Airport Extreme router?

I just replaced an old Actiontec router with a new Apple Airport Extreme router to work with my Verizon FIOS service. Connection to all Apple products via ethernet or wireless works OK, however I cannot get the PC up and running via its ethernet connection to the Airport Extreme. Any help would be much appreciated.

If your other devices are working then it is probably the PC's IP configuration.
First, make sure that the PC is actually connected to the Extreme by verifying the lights are on at the Ethernet ports on the PC and the Extreme.
If you are using DHCP to manage the IP addresses then make sure that the PC is configured to "Obtain IP Address Automatically" for both IP versions 4 and 6.
When I replaced my Linksys w/ an Extreme I forgot that I had a couple devices configured with static (manual) IPs. My old one used the "192.168.1.nn" and my Extreme defaulted to "10.0.1.nn". Once i converted all the static IPs to the correct subnet then all was good.

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