Substitution business area

hi guru,
there is a method for applicate a substitution (GGB1) at GSBER (business area) field?
i I have tried in my system (FI) but I have not found!
I hope you know more than me!
thx
Valerio

yes... i try the sme condition with filed zuonr and the substition work, but with gsber no!
condition is BKPF-BUKRS = 'U001' AND BSEG-GSBER <> 'COMU'.
i try to make also with an exit, but nothing!

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