Subtitle stream mapping - 16:9, 4:3

Hi,
I just learned that the "big" Authoringtools (Creator, Scenarist and even Maestro!) are able to assign Subtitle streams to different aspect ratios. So you can, have for the same, language 2 subtitle streams (one for 16:9, one for 4:3 LB). The user will only see one Stream dependend how his player is configured.
I believe this is not possible with dvd SP?!
If not, is this possible to asign with "DVD After edit" ?
cu,
matthes

hi rob,
you can choose subtitle streams by scripting in DVD SP. but i believe you would not be able to hide subtitle streams belonging to the setup of the user. For one language the user should ONLY see (and be able to select within the movie) the subtitle stream that fits to his setup.
DVD After Edit has this feature. And i know also found were it has to be done:
Its in the PGC of the movie where you have the subtitles.
If i understand this correct it works nearly similar to the subpicture mapping of Maestro. But in Maestro you can set Streams also "None". I presume this is "0" in DVDAfteredit. Or is "0" the first stream? (here im a bit confused).
For a setup with One language and two streams ("Wide" and "Letterboxed") the setup would be:
Stream1 (Wide subtitles in DVD SP track): Wide=1 ; Letterboxed=0 (None)
Stream2 (Letterbox Subtitles in DVD SP track): Wide=0 (None) ; Letterboxed=1
I post this also to the presales forum of DVDAE, hopefully Larry Applegate will confirm that,
cu,
matthes

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