Sudden Motion Sensor being too sensitive?

So, I bought my early 2011 mbp in august of 2011. Everything was fine, until my hard drive suddenly crashed/failed/died last may (2013). After having my hard drive replaced, I started to encounter random shut downs even when I was on the computer (not moving or anything. just typing on a table). I went back and they replaced my motherboard and checked the hard drive again (they also replaced the screen, as it was acting up too). About 4-5 months after having my motherboard replaced, my computer would randomly shut itself off in sleep mode. It didn't matter where it was, it would just shut itself off. No motion or anything. In order to fix this problem, I'd have to dig the charger out and boot up while connected to the charger. I took my computer back to apple and told them about this. No one in the store knew anything, so they took it and looked at it overnight and found nothing wrong. I went home, and of course the minute I sit down to use it, it acts up. This has been going on for about 6 months now. It gets to be aggravating to carry my charger with me everywhere I go. All of the research I've done on this issue doesn't mention anything about booting up from the charger. (btw, I have a full battery too).
Can someone PLEASE help me? This is getting really irritating, and apple won't believe there's something wrong. I've also disabled the sms in terminal and rebooted, so those changes should have taken effect. It still shuts down even when sms is disabled.
*The only time it doesn't shut off is when it is on the charger*
(Also: When I move my mbp around, it sounds like there's a screw loose inside. It isn't the regular disc drive sound that you hear when booting up, it's almost like a clicking of a screw loose inside)

Does it click when the light on the front is flashing on and off? It takes a while for it to fully go to sleep and chances are you are moving it before it is done going to sleep mode. The light will be on solid while it is working on it, and flashing on and off when it is all the way asleep

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I worried about upgrading my hard drive, fearing that the Sudden Motion Sensor was built-in to Apple's OEM installed drives. I researched on the web prior to doing the upgrade (myself, by the way) and all sources pointed to the Sudden Motion Sensor being a "software"--for lack of a better term--feature that was independent of the hard drive, and regardless of what hard drive you have installed.
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I don't remember where I read it, but I read that if you put in a hard drive--like the one you mentioned, but that can't work in our PowerBooks or any for that matter--that has its own built-in Sudden Motion Sensor type technology, it will conflict with Apple's "software"-based technology.
I wonder if Seagate's 160GB 5400.3 drive has it? I haven't read proving this.
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Now don't get me wrong, anyone reading this. This Seagate drive is fabulous. It is the conflict with Sudden Motion Sensor that I'm trying to decipher!
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No on the dropping. Definately would have mentioned that if I had...
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Download an run memtest to check your RAM.
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www.memtestosx.org/downloads/memtest422/Users_Guide.rtf
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https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3013824?start=0&tstart=0
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3013824?start=45&tstart=0

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