Suggestion about Sart Menu & Start Screen

If the Start Menu will come back in the new version of Windows (Windows 9?), then I hope the following suggestions become true.
For better and consistent experience when switching between Start Menu & Start Screen, I suggest:
1) Apps Shortcuts in the Start Menu is a List View (*) of Apps Tiles in the Start Screen; Apps Tiles in the Start Screen is a Large Icon View (*) of Apps Shortcuts in the Start Menu.
* Regarding 'List View' and 'Large Icon View', I just quoted the view name in the Windows Explorer to present my concept, I don't mean to use Large Icon to replace Tile.
2) When user Add/Remove a Apps Shortcut into/from the Start Menu will also Add/Remove same Apps Tile into/from the Start Screen automatically; When user Add/Remove a Apps Tile into/Remove the Start Screen will also Add/Remove same
Apps Shortcut into/from the Start Menu automatically
3) When run a Modern/Metro Apps, it can appear in both Start Screen and Desktop
4) Executable file (e.g. .exe/.bat/.msi/.com, etc.) ONLY can run in the Desktop, and CAN NOT add a Shortcut of Executable file into the Start Screen as a Tile
5) In the Apps list under Start Screen, hide all Executable files (e.g. .exe/.bat/.msi/.com, etc.); In the All Programs under Start Menu, show all Apps and all Executable files
6) The new Start Menu divided into Four sections (from top to bottom):
User (incl. Shutdown, Restart, Logoff options),
Apps/Program shortcuts,
All Apps/Program Files,
Settings
7) Point to the upper-right corner of Start Menu for displaying a upper-right arrow, then click it to enlarge the Start Menu and transform into the Start Screen; Under Start Screen, point to the upper-right of the display screen for displaying
a bottom-left arrow, then click it to bring up the Start Menu and Desktop
Thanks & Regards,
Harry Cheng

For better and more consistent experience...
Consider using a free 3rd party Start Menu replacement called Classic Shell that has provided better and more consistent service since it came out in the time of Vista.
Why bother trying to follow the changing whims of Microsoft at each new version release when you can just have the same top shelf Start Menu functionality from version to version? Classic Shell has been a better implementation of every flavor
of start menu Microsoft has made (and especially better than not having one at all).
When Windows 9 comes out, you can just choose to ignore whatever Microsoft provides and continue using Classic Shell. Your usability won't be impaired because you'll already be good at using it, and there is no doubt that it'll
still be a better, more efficient implementation than Microsoft's own.
-Noel
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If a LabVIEW bug is exposed to my customers, I can't just blame it on NI - I have to implement some sort of workaround to hide the bug from my customers so that they don't know its there.
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