Suggestion for a drum pad interface to use in Logic 7.2

Hello all. I'm looking for suggestions for a drum pad interface to use with logic 7.2. I was very interested with the Korg PadKontrol but unfortunately it is not UB compliant. According to my understanding it will only work in Rosetta. Can anyone else let me know what pad interface you use (UB compliant) and your experiences with it. I am doing alot of research on what to get but I really believe in Feedback from "real life" users. Thank you very much in advance for your time!!

the pad itself uses MIDI to communicate with the Mac. They bundle software with the pad that is not UB. So if you are not intending to use the editor software, it is irrelevent.

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