Suggestion for alternative to Mail 4.2 for downloading gmail POP mails

As noted elsewhere, Mail 4.2 doesn't like gmail POP. I know Thunderbird and Eudora will do the trick but has anybody any suggestions/recommendations?

Colin Burkley wrote:
I confess to not watching this forum religiously but I had difficulty enabling POP mail with mail 4.2 in SL and understood from reading some previous threads here (and elsewhere) that I wasn't the only one. If there's a fix, I'd be delighted to hear about it.
ah, yes, there was difficulty in setting up gmail POP but I found out how to do it. the method was well hidden. see my os x hint on the issue here:
http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=2009091121155087

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Both inbox and outbox from Gmail ends up in my gmail/pop/mail inbox

Both inbox and outbox from Gmail ends up in my gmail/pop/mail inbox; how to resolve?
- So: the mail I send via gmail comes also in my inbox of mail in which I use the gmail pop account.
Please help!

This is a Gmail issue. Gmail POP access doesn’t work like a normal POP mail server would. Here are some of its idiosyncrasies:
1. Messages downloaded by any conventional POP mail client are marked as downloaded at the server (but not as read on the web), and no longer available to either the same or any other POP mail client.
2. To make already downloaded messages available for POP access again, you must go to Gmail’s Settings > Forwarding and POP page, select Enable POP for all mail, and click Save Changes, which causes everything (and I mean everything) still on the server to be downloaded again.
3. The Mail > Preferences > Accounts > Advanced > Remove copy from server settings have absolutely no effect on the messages stored on Gmail’s server. Gmail ignores any requests to delete messages from the server made by a POP client. What happens to the messages on the server after a POP client has downloaded them is determined by Gmail’s Settings > Forwarding and POP > When messages are accessed with POP setting alone. In the case of Gmail (and only in that case), I recommend turning OFF Remove copy from server in Mail, so that Mail doesn’t even try to remove any messages from the server, regardless of whether you do actually want already downloaded messages to be removed from the server after some time or not.
4. Messages sent using the web interface will be downloaded by your POP mail client as if they were received messages. Although this may seem weird, it's good because it allows archiving all messages locally in Mail, regardless of how they were sent — as long as you don't access the same Gmail account with more than one POP mail client, that is. You can set up a rule in Mail to automatically route those messages to the appropriate Sent mailbox (or to any other mailbox for that matter) if that's what you want.
5. Messages sent using a POP/SMTP mail client such as Mail are also treated as if they were incoming messages for POP purposes, just as in #4. What prevents them from being downloaded is that Gmail marks them as already downloaded immediately. Since they’re on the server nonetheless, already sent messages would be downloaded together with all the other messages on the server if proceeding as described in #2.
6. A particular case of #5 are messages sent to yourself. Instead of putting a copy of the sent message in the server’s Inbox and making it available for download, both the sent and the “received” message on the server are actually one and the same, and hence, cannot be downloaded via POP for the reason explained in #5.
7. Gmail allows POP accounts to be set up in a special way that avoids some of these issues while introducing others. If you only need POP access to the last 30 days of mail, you can configure Mail in “recent mode”, as described in How should I use POP on mobile or multiple devices?, i.e. by typing “recent:” (including the colon but not the quotes) at the beginning of the User Name field (not in the Email Address field) in Mail > Preferences > Accounts > Account Information. Configuring the account this way would allow Mail to download messages marked by Gmail as already downloaded (and download messages sent to yourself in particular), but it would also cause all sent messages (not just messages sent to yourself or through webmail) to be downloaded as if they were received messages.

My mobile me will also download my pop mail will this also happen with icloud?

my mobile me will also download my pop mail will this also happen with icloud?
When I read the information it seems to say it will then it won't

This facility is not available in iCloud. Before migrating you should turn it off in MobileMe as otherwise you may find it continues to operate in iCloud for a time (this is effectively a bug) with no way of turning it off since it isn't supposed to the there.

How to add gmail account to mail without having to download all old mail

How to add a gmail account to mail without having to download all old mail. As i have thousands of main over the years.

In Mail, select the File -> Preferences menu. Click on Accounts in the toolbar. Select your gmail account on the list on the left and press the Advanced tab. Uncheck the Enable This Account box. That should do it.

Very very slow to download gmail in mail APP iPad

As I wrote in the title, in the last days, from when I updated iOS 7.04, I've some problem with the mail app in iPad 3rd gen.
With the account gmail: it's very very very slow to download the emails.
First of all, I reset the iPad, but nothing.
So, I deleted the gmail account and set up it again... but nothing.
So, what's the problem: Gmail? Mail APP in iOS 7.04? Both? And how can I resolved it?
Thank you very much for yours replay. Best regards.
Fabio Panzeri

As I wrote in the title, in the last days, from when I updated iOS 7.04, I've some problem with the mail app in iPad 3rd gen.
With the account gmail: it's very very very slow to download the emails.
First of all, I reset the iPad, but nothing.
So, I deleted the gmail account and set up it again... but nothing.
So, what's the problem: Gmail? Mail APP in iOS 7.04? Both? And how can I resolved it?
Thank you very much for yours replay. Best regards.
Fabio Panzeri

Mail downloading gmail sent mail?

This could be a gmail thing and not a .mac but I can't find a setting in gmail that seems to account for this action.
I check my gmail with Mail and only occasionally use it to send stuff but when I do, at the end of the day, Mail seems to download a CC of the mail that I've sent (which I've not actually CCd or BCCd to myself). Does anyone know if this is a mac preference that I cant turn off somewhere?

Not sure what you mean. If those messages are being sent using Gmail’s webmail interface (which you haven’t made clear), this is normal Gmail behavior and Mail has no bearing on it.
Gmail POP access doesn’t work like a normal POP mail server would. Here are some of its idiosyncrasies (#4 could be what you’re observing):
1. Messages downloaded by any conventional POP mail client are marked as downloaded at the server (but not as read on the web), and no longer available to either the same or any other POP mail client.
2. To make already downloaded messages available for POP access again, you must go to Gmail’s Settings > Forwarding and POP page, select Enable POP for all mail, and click Save Changes, which causes everything (and I mean everything) still on the server to be downloaded again.
3. The Mail > Preferences > Accounts > Advanced > Remove copy from server settings have absolutely no effect on the messages stored on Gmail’s server. Gmail ignores any requests to delete messages from the server made by a POP client. What happens to the messages on the server after a POP client has downloaded them is determined by Gmail’s Settings > Forwarding and POP > When messages are accessed with POP setting alone. In the case of Gmail (and only in that case), I recommend turning OFF Remove copy from server in Mail, so that Mail doesn’t even try to remove any messages from the server, regardless of whether you do actually want already downloaded messages to be removed from the server after some time or not.
4. Messages sent using the web interface will be downloaded by your POP mail client as if they were received messages. Although this may seem weird, it's good because it allows archiving all messages locally in Mail, regardless of how they were sent — as long as you don't access the same Gmail account with more than one POP mail client, that is. You can set up a rule in Mail to automatically route those messages to the appropriate Sent mailbox (or to any other mailbox for that matter) if that's what you want.
5. Messages sent using a POP/SMTP mail client such as Mail are also treated as if they were incoming messages for POP purposes, just as in #4. What prevents them from being downloaded is that Gmail marks them as already downloaded immediately. Since they’re on the server nonetheless, already sent messages would be downloaded together with all the other messages on the server if proceeding as described in #2.
6. A particular case of #5 are messages sent to yourself. Instead of putting a copy of the sent message in the server’s Inbox and making it available for download, both the sent and the “received” message on the server are actually one and the same, and hence, cannot be downloaded via POP for the reason explained in #5.
7. Gmail allows POP accounts to be set up in a special way that avoids some of these issues while introducing others. If you only need POP access to the last 30 days of mail, you may configure Mail in “recent mode”, as described in Using POP on multiple clients or mobile devices. Configuring the account this way would allow Mail to download messages marked by Gmail as already downloaded (and download messages sent to yourself in particular), but it would also cause all sent messages (not just messages sent to yourself or through webmail) to be downloaded as if they were received messages.

Mail goes missing after downloaded from POP server

I have never run into this before. I have on this brand new MacMini (2 weeks old) with one POP email account set-up on Mac Mail 2.1.1 and in one folder the messages are going missing. Anything about 3-4 days old are fine, but the rest give me a message telling me to download them from the server. In the Mail preferences I have it set to remove from the server after one week, but considering this is a POP account it should have been downloaded to the computer once mail is checked from what I understand. I have seen this problem before with IMAP, but not POP. Now in other folders this isn't happening, not the Inbox or Sent just this one folder. I rebuilt the folder and these messages were completely deleted. Then I repaired permissions, however, in the log it didn't say that there was any issues with Mail. Does anyone have any insight or any suggestions? I just don't want this happening again in the future. Thanks.

If this is a custom “On My Mac” mailbox, in the
Finder go to ~/Library/Mail/Mailboxes/. Can
you see the mailbox there? Report its contents.
Note: For those not familiarized with the
~/ notation, it refers to the user’s home
folder, i.e. ~/Library is the Library folder
within the user’s home folder.
SAME PROBLEM. SUSPECTED PAST WEEK AS TRASH AND DELETED MAIL DISAPPEARED. FOLLOWED YOUR SUGGESTION LIBRAY/MAIL/MAILBOXES.
NOTHING THERE IN DELETED/MESSAGES AND OUTBOX/MESSAGES
SPOOKY! PLEASE MAKE IT STOP.

Mac Mail Smart Folders triplicate messages (Gmail-based mail server)

I can't get Mail Smart Folders to work well with my Virginmedia mail server, which seems to use a Gmail type of system. (I'm using IMAP).
It is easy to set up an instruction to select mail e.g. from defined individuals only, or any other qualifier.
However, I get all mail in triplicate: from the normal Inbox, but also from Gmail-type "All Mail" and "Important" inboxes. I know these mailboxes exist on the Virginmedia server, and also, virtually, in Mail, but I don't ever look at them or need to. There might be a way of not having all mails defined as "Important" on the server, but "All Mail" exists by default and can't be removed, for obvious reasons.
I have tried various additional instructions in the Smart Folder such as include if "Message is in Inbox", but that selects all messages. Also, if "Message is not in Inbox", so that I get only two sets of messages, but that has produced strange results such as messages marked as in Spam folder, which seem to have nothing to do with the defined instructions.
Is there anything "smart" I can do about this, or is it just a matter of Mail not being up to speed with Gmail-based servers. It's just an annoyance, more than anything.

Nope. Gone.
I went to my second mac. Opened Mail, it refreshed its previous state, with 1100 messages in the Inbox, I was relieved and while thinking about my backup options, Mail started its new activity cycle and POOF....Gone. One test message in the Inbox.

Apple mail will not connect to gmail (POP)

Hello,
For a week or so, Mail just will not connect to Gmail. Macbook Pro, Lepoard 5.8.
I tried deleting all accounts and creating them again but I get a message saying that the server is not answering.
This happened suddenly and Mail had been working fine for years... No changes in the Mac, no new software...No known general problem with Gmail. Gmail parameters set to POP as I'm using this instead of IMAP...
So right now All accounts have been deleted and I cannot re-connect....
Latest: even my Yahoo accounts do not work any more now.
Perhaps I should remove Mail and re-install it again ?
If so, how the h..k do I go about it as I'm no computer expert !
Please try not to be too technical as I'm french and do not really master PC language that well ...
Thanks and regards.
JP/

Hello, Marcredd.
Thank you for using Apple Support Communities.
Here are a couple articles that I would start with as they have some helpful troubleshooting steps.
OS X Mail: Troubleshooting sending and receiving email messages
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS3276
Gmail account will not connect to Gmail server
http://support.apple.com/kb/ts3058
This issue that you are experiencing sounds like two-step verification is enabled on your Gmail account. I would recommend selecting the Gmail Help Center link and search for two-step verification in the link below.
Using a Gmail account on multiple devices
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS2976
Cheers,
Jason H.

Configuring Apple Mail client to work with gmail and mail relays

I have a gmail account [email protected] and am successfully using this account from both my macbookpro an iphone.
I also have an e-mail relay account [email protected] I have successfully configured the email relay to send mail to [email protected] and get it fine on my mail client. My problem is that when I reply to these emails or create fresh e-mails, I'd like it to use the address [email protected] not [email protected] When I used to use Eudora, there was a setting in the account configuration screen called "reply to" this would change the reply to email account to whatever I wanted, in this case, [email protected] I have scoured the mail documentation and realize that I am missing something simple. I would appreciate any assistance with configuration settings necessary to have my relay alias show-up on my mail headings.
thanks
Art

The first thing to do is to log into the Gmail web site and configure your account so that it allows you to send mail from [email protected]
Then configure your account in Mail so that the Email Address is [email protected] That should do it. This is better than setting a reply-to because the mail will really be from [email protected] and not [email protected]
If you want, you can put both [email protected] and [email protected] in the Email Address (separated with a comma) in which case Mail will show a popup menu labeled From below the Subject. You can then select which address the message should be from.
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New Mail: How do I download an e-mail attachment?

Where is the download button?
Please explain, step by step.

Each email provider is different and so you would have to Google how to do this. If we are having trouble downloading, we could possibly help you.

Using a POP mail account in mac mail

My friend has an AT&T sbcglobal POP mail account he has added to his mac mail app. Since it is POP mail it is not always received in his mac mail box if AT&T Yahoo account receives it first. I guess he can prevent the Yahoo mail box from downloading the messages if he signs out of the Yahoo account.But he also has an iPhone. So will he still have the race problem between the computer & the iPhone on which gets the mail first?
Appreciate any suggestions on how this can be solved?

For POP:
The following mail server settings will work with all AT&T email domains: @ameritech.net, @att.net, @bellsouth.net, @flash.net, @nvbell.net, @pacbell.net, @prodigy.net, @sbcglobal.net, @snet.net, @swbell.net, @wans.net.
Email Program Settings Field:
Enter:
Incoming (POP)
inbound.att.net
Outgoing (SMTP)
outbound.att.net(requires authentication)
Incoming mail server:
POP3
Incoming/Outgoing User Name:
Full AT&T email address, including domain (e.g., [email protected], [email protected])
Incoming mail port #:
995, secure connection (SSL) checked
Outgoing mail port #
465, secure connection (SSL) checked
I assume the settings you are refering to gives that delay for marking the messages as read when highlighted for that period of time. Probably for scrolling through the list without changing the unread status. Lion doesn't have that selection, so I can't test that at the moment.

Mail 5.1 and Gmail POP problem

Firstly I'm not sure if this question has been answered previously, if yes, please lead me to that thread. I've upgraded to Lion and I'm currently using Mail 5.1 to download ALL my emails from my Gmail account. Everything is working as normal, but when I ask Mail to fetch it from Gmail POP, it downloads just a few and stops. I have to again command Mail to fetch new email everytime and it does the same thing - basically it doesn't download all emails till the last received email.
I am looking for some answers and can't seem to find them. Can anyone help me please.

Ok, so it took some time, but I guess you can't use POP with the new mail, so I just limited the imap to 1000 messages through the Gmail settings. I guess that will work, but it is a little frustrating that it is not more customizable.

Gmail "All Mail" folder. Why can I not delete messages?

i am new to the Mac community. When I open Mail, I have a Gmail folder labelled "All Mail". This folder loaded over 10600 messages from my earlier email activity on a PC. Every time I try to delete any of them, the messages just load back into the folder. Is this normal?. i can move messages to the "Bin" folder, but they still cannot be deleted. Are these messages taking up hard disc space on my new iMac? If so what can I do about it?

I have a different but related question re Gmail's "All Mail" folder: will Gmail get confused if there are emails in folders (tags) that don't have a corresponding copy in the All Mail folder?
CONTEXT:
In my Mac's mail app, I have several accounts (a couple Gmail accts, my icloud acct, etc.). Thus far I've been moving mail from my main Gmail acct into my folders (tags) in that Gmail acct, to store them after I've read / acted on them. E.g., I have a folder for 2013Q1, 2012Q4, 2012Q3, etc. -- these comprise basically a chron-based, self-managed set of archive folders. I even started moving mail from the Sent folder into these folders.
However, I'd like to also start moving mail from my NON-Gmail accts to that main Gmail acct and store them in the same folders. I see that when I move a mail from, say, my iCloud acct, it does show up in the target Gmail folder, but there is NO copy of that mail showing up in the Gmail "All Mail" folder.
Is that a problem? It seems to me that Gmail's All Mail folder is there as a master-index to mail in various folders (tags) ... so is it a problem to have a mail is in a Gmail folder without being in All Mail? (I think the same question would apply if someone wanted to delete mail from Gmail's All Mail folder -- can it be done without harming the copy in other folders? (An example that's not directly on-point: I've considered deleting those myriad drafts that get uploaded to Gmail automatically when you are drafting a message -- but in that case, only the final draft is in another Gmail folder.)
Thanks!

Thunderbird can download and send mail with Cox POP Mail, Mail cannot?

I have Thunderbird and Mail installed.
I can download and send mail with Thunderbird.
I can't even set-up an account with Mail because it cannot find the POP Mail server.
I have Firewall on with ports 25, 110 and 587 open.
This really seems strange that I can use Thunderbird to set up and use POP Mail access to Cox, but not Mail.
My servers are:
pop.central.cox.net
smtp.central.cox.net
I've followed the steps on Cox's support web site, no success.
I've already called Cox, they're clueless.
Thoughts or suggestions are greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
--Todd
Mini Mac OS X (10.4.6)

Hi Todd,
Well since Tbird works, we can rule out lots of things.
Mail cannot find the POP server
You are using the Welcome to Mail assistant to do this, and when you type in your incoming mail server info it spins the gear a bit, gives an error, and says that if you continue Mail may not work -- yes? What does the error say specifically?
No disrespect at all, but the most likely problem is a typo somewhere / mis-specified username. Please go 'round once more.
Good luck,
John

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