"suitable marker" troubles

I have a dual layer DVD project. The project has two tracks. Each track is 60 minutes long, 3.9 GB in size, and has no chapters (except for Chapter 1, ie: the start point).
I have done the build already. I'm unable to do the format because I keep getting the message saying "a suitable chapter could not be found in the layer break range".
I have referred to the manual, but can't find a way around it since I have no chapters in the tracks. I tried inserting various chapter markers near the end of each track, but no joy. I also tried adding a chapter marker at the end of each track and labelling it as the dual layer break point -- still no joy. I just keep getting the same error message each time I try to format.
I've read this forum looking for answers, and there is often a refrence to picking chapters from a pull-down list, choosing ones that aren't greyed out...but I have never come accross this pull-down list while working on the project.
Any help very much appreciated. Cheers.
iMac Mac OS X (10.4)

Thanks for your reply Colin.
I only have the PDF Help manual - my physical copy of the manual is long lost.
Both tracks are identical in length and file size.
I've added plenty of chapter markers at the beginning of the tracks. Still I get the error message. Am I perhaps adding the markers incorrectly? Are they supposed to be added before the Build step, or after?
This project's video doesn't require any chapters at all - it's just ambient, back-ground type images, there's no plot to follow, and no fast-forwarding or rewinding required. I know what you mean, though, but in this case it would be pointless.

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