Suitcase Fonts

anyone know of a free program that will help extract the individual fonts from an old suitcase font file. I know there is font doctor and smasher etc. Just wondering if there is a freeware program out there?

There shouldn't be any TrueType fonts in a Type 1 PostScript suitcase. The only thing you should find in there are the bitmap screen fonts which must not be removed. The only way you would ever find TrueType fonts within a what's supposed to only be a Type 1 PostScript suitcase is if someone put them there, back in OS 9 days and earlier when anyone could open a suitcase and manually move things in and out.
Even if there are TrueType fonts in the suitcase which shouldn't be, it normally wouldn't hurt anything to leave them. You'll just have extra fonts showing up in your font lists that aren't supposed to be part of the typeface family. Where it would be a problem is if some dummy put TrueType versions of (example, Garamond) inside a Type 1 PostScript Garamond suitcase. You'd have instant font conflicts with no easy way to correct it.
I really wish Apple would support those who mostly built the company (ie: desktop publishing industry) and allow users to open font suitcase files within OSX.
Second, third and fourth that motion.

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CS5/CS6 Illustrator suitcase font problems

We have been having incompatibility issues with Suitcase fusion 3 and Illustrator CS5 from months now. Now Illustrator CS6 has launched, we are having the same issues.
Upon startup we load all our suitcase fonts then open Illustrator CS5, We also have to have auto activation turned completely off as it is too unpredictable. I would say 40% of the time fonts will load correctly and no issues will occur. The rest of the time the fonts load but in Illustrator a warning message is displayed when a text box is clicked:
'This text was created in a different version of Illustrator. Editing the text may cause some changes to your text layout. Basic formatting will not be affected. Do you want to continue?'
If the message is clicked 'OK' the text will reflow and the text box will bust with a small red plus symbol in the bottom right hand corner
If I quit Illustrator without saving and reopen, the message will not be displayed and no reflow will occur.
So its as if Illustrator cannot load the fonts from Suitcase correctly 100% of the time the first time it is opened.
Also if the document is saved when the fonts are not loaded correctly the error will be saved into the document, meaning any other Mac that opens that file, regardless of the fonts they use, will have the error appear.
Does Adobe have a fix for this? Is Suitcase fusion 3 incompatible with CS5+6?

Maybe not the most helpful answer but I stopped using Suitcase years ago and moved over to Linotype's FontExplorer. The decision was based on similar issues to the one you're having. I remember always having to open documents, then close them, then reopen them in order to get the fonts to activate.
Since you're not using activation, I have no idea why a font that is supposed to be open is not recognized by Illustrator until after restarting Illus. It's possible that your font caches are corrupt, you can easily clean them to see if that's the issue. Doubtful since you seem to indicate that it's affecting multiple machines, but you never know.
What version of Illustrator were the files created in? There was a change to the type engine with, I think, CS2 that would cause that warning to come up, but even that wouldn't explain why it would only come up once.
I don't know that anyone here is still using suitcase, most having moved to Font Agent Pro or FontExplorer but maybe someone will chime in.

How do I get my font suitcase fonts on my old Mac to my new 10.8.5 mac?

Hi Everyone,
I recently bough a new mac laptop becaue my desktop mac was running slow and not letting me use my design applications properly (freezing, crashing, and in general just being slow). I am a graphic designer, and have fonts on my old desktop mac that I need to have on my new laptop mac for client work.
I went thru my old mac (I am not sure what original version it is, but it had been upgraded a few times to the 10.6.8), found all of the fonts and collected them into one folder, placed it on my new mac, and proceeded to install the fonts. The problem that I am having is that my old mac has a lot of fonts that are a font suitcase file, instead of a regular font format, and I cannot install these onto my new mac.
I do not have access to any other forms of these fonts, so I only have the font suitcase versions.
Is there something that I can do to make these install? It's becoming a pain to have to open up a document on my old mac to get the font and then outline it and open it on the new one (since the old one runs slow).
Any help is much appreciated!
Thanks,
Melissa

I am not sure, how would I find that out?
You kind of have to know ahead of time. But here's one example of a Type 1 PostScript font:
The suitcase here has .scr (short for screen fonts) tacked on. Sometimes it will say .bmap (bitmapped screen fonts, same thing). Many won't have any extension. It doesn't matter if they do or not. This particular font has only one matching printer font. The suitcase will have at least as many screen fonts in it as there are outline fonts for the set.
A Mac legacy TrueType font will have the same icon and also have a Kind description of "font suitcase". There really isn't anything that will easily set them apart to know which one you have.

SUITCASE FONT FILES

Hello,
How can I create a folder type of "suitcase" to contain several fonts I have from the same family? I want them to be contained in a suitcase so as to tidy up both the finder window, and the font directory lists in font book application. If they are in a suitcase folder type container, then in font book app they are nested under the family name and that's what I'm hoping to achieve.
Can the OS do this or do I need some kind of software app?
cheers,
—b

The fonts are not nested together in a family because of the suitcase which is no longer used in OSX. It is because the font designer has made the family links inside the font itself. Even when suitases were being used the same thing applied, it had to be part of the font to form a family.
You should be using Open Type Fonts these days to get better functionality and compatibility with both Mac OSX and Windows XP and Vista.
There is a utility, Font XChanger, that will convert fonts of almost any type Mac or PC to otf. It is quick and very straight forward to use, you can even drag whole collections in at one time and have it convert them.

I cannot activate my fonts in Lion using Fontexplorer 3 or Suitcase font fusion

I installed 10.7. I cannot activate any of my non systems fonts using FontExploere Pro 3 or Suitcase Fusion 3. Has this happened to someone else?

I added my fonts into the Fonts folder in InDesign CS 5.5. I can now see and use the fonts in Fusion. Fusion has also updated their software to be Lion compliant.
Hope this helps

Cannot see suitcase fonts

i can only see type kit fonts after installing extension manager???

Hi Sara,
I'm sorry that you ran into trouble with this. Some users have reported an issue in the current version of InDesign and other CC apps which can temporarily deactivate installed fonts. Please note that this is actually unrelated to Typekit; it just happens to occur at the time you see our logo in the missing fonts window.
The InDesign and app teams teams are still investigating the factors which trigger this situation, but the basic issue is this: the Missing Fonts dialog causes fonts which are managed through Extensis Suitcase and FontExplorer to not auto-activate correctly, or for managed fonts to even be visible in the application after upgrade.
In both cases, the Missing Fonts dialog appears to override the Font Management tool dialogs that allow users to manage fonts within the Application.
If you use Suitcase Fusion, there is a simple configuration change needed:
1. close the Missing Fonts window
3. go to the Type menu and select "Suitcase Fusion 5".
3. From the submenu, choose "Library" and then check "All Libraries" so all fonts can be auto-activated as needed
4. from the Type menu, select "Suitcase Fusion 5" again, and then "Check Document’s Fonts" to activate the missing fonts,
If the font is being managed by Suitcase, it will find and update the fonts.
In FontExplorer, if your managed fonts are not visible in InDesign after upgrading to InDesign 9.2
Go to FontExplorer/Tools and select
1. Clean System Font Caches (this will require a system reboot)
2. Clean Application Font Caches
On non-Mavericks systems, you will need to de-activate and then reactivate font protection. Launch a terminal window and enter
sudo atsutil fontprotection -off
Then enter
sudo atsutil fontprotection -on
Relaunch the app. your managed fonts should now be visible and auto-activation should work.
The fonts can always be activated from within the Font Management software itself, even with the missing fonts dialog open.
The InDesign and other app teams are looking into the issue to determine the root cause as well; our apologies for any inconvenience it causes in the meantime.
Cheers,
Benjamin

Need Help!! Extensis Suitcase + Font Problems

Hi guys!
I installed Extensis Suitcase a couple weeks ago and it told me I had numerous duplicates. So I cleaned up my fonts folders after reading some Lang's posts and deleted duplicates. But these last days, I couldn't activate fonts through suitcase. They stayed deactivated as I clicked on'em.
I tought Font Book was the problem so I deleted it, font preferences, cleaned caches, restart, trash can, delete font book. Then XS cause some kind of restart and I was stuck in Darwin with a prompt (/root:). I checked fsck and anyway, I force it to restart with a PRAM reset.
But now Suitcase startup and is initiallizing forever. I can't even access the preferences. What am I supposed to do about that?
PowerMac G4 (Sawtooth) Mac OS X (10.3.9) 896 MB RAM

My Microsoft version is the 2004 one...
Then it's very strange you didn't find the file /Users/yourusername/Library/Caches/.com.microsoft.browserfont.cache
Extensis Suitcase X1
That version works well with OS X. So if you're getting the same hang problem after deleting the preference files, then there must be corrupt fonts (one or more) that are damaging the preference files each time they are built.
Last time I could work with XS, I had something like 1600 fonts. Mostly located in my HD/library/fonts. I don't store any in my user font library. Would it be better? Since I'm the only user, I thought I'd put it on the HD rather than in my user account...how does that sound?
That's not a great number of fonts, but could easily contain one of more corrupt copies. Damaged fonts will bring down any font manager. In a normal setting where you're controlling the fonts manually, the \Library\Fonts\ folder would be fine. There's no advantage for a single user to use that folder over the one in your user account, or visa versa.
Actually, that's part of your problem. Particularly with applications still seeing the fonts you've "disabled". In any of OS X's Fonts folder, fonts are active all the time. That's their purpose. To control them with Suitcase, you don't want any of your fonts in either folder. Leave the system fonts alone, but move all other fonts to a new folder. Then activate/deactivate them with Suitcase from there. That's how it's supposed to be used.
Also, these fonts are grouped in alphabetical order, I have a folder for each letter (first letter) and I file my fonts accordingly. Should I take em out of those folders and have em all directly in the fonts folder?
Nope, doesn't make any difference to OS X or Suitcase if they're in sub folders. But as mentioned, you need to get them out of OS X's Fonts folders. Once you've moved your fonts to a new location, trash the preference files for Suitcase again and restart your Mac.

Suitcase Fusion 3 for fonts slowing down Illustrator?

I'm working on a PC in windows 7 and using CS5. I have Extensis Suitcase Fusion 3 for font management but someone told me that this may be why my Illustrator in particular is so slow. I frequently have to sit and wait for it to catch up to me while the top title bar says "Not responding".
Can anyone comment on this? I don't want to give up my suitcase font manager - I really like it. Surely these programs can get along??

Sorry that Illustrator is being slow for you. If you think that that Suitcase is causing the problem. I would do two things.
1. Ensure that your version of Suitcase was built to work with your version of Illustrator.
http://www.extensis.com/downloads/compatibility-guides/suitcase-fusion-compatibility-guide /
2. If they are compatible, and you still think that it's Suitcase, please contact Extensis support.
http://www.extensis.com/support
Jim

Noob needs help using/managing large font collection in os10

Hope this is the correct forum for this question. I'm a os10 noob starting at a new, small startup design-oriented biz (6-7 macs) that needs to manage fonts - 100s, over a 1000. Other places I've worked used Font Reserve and I'm familiar with that program but I never knew if it came with os10 or you had to go buy it, and if you needed to buy a separate copy for each computer?
I'm trying to help get this biz set-up, but I know NOTHING about font usage/set-up in os10. I've always used ATM Deluxe4.6 (os9) and have over 2000 fonts nicely arranged in sets (took me an entire day, way back when). Would love to transfer these arranged sets into os10, if possible.
Is there a built-in font mgmt in os10? Is it any good for large collections? Is Font Reserve a good program for large font collections?
I don't even know where os10 stores fonts or the right questions to ask. Pls point me in the right direction!
TIA

Fontbook is ok for dealing with a handful of fonts on an occasional basis, but for pro design work you should run, don't walk, to: http://www.linotype.com/fontexplorerX/
FontExplorerX beats the pants of any other font management tool I've used on the mac after many years of ATM, Suitcase & Font Agent Pro. FEX looks and feels like an "iTunes for Fonts" - it's fast, stable, clean and simple to use and best of all for a small biz (like me) - it's FREE! :O

Font not displaying/loading correctly in Character Pallet

I recently upgraded to Snow Leopard and Creative Suite CS5, Adobe Illustrator CS 15.1.0. I'm using Suitcase Fusion 4 ver. 15.0.5 (latest version).
I'm having a problem with 2 of my fonts loading correctly in illustrator's Character pallet. They display like a missing fonts in the character pallet as shown in my screen shot with "less than" characters around them: < Carta >, , < ITC Zapf Dingbats >
These fonts and files do not give me warnings for missing fonts. The files print and rip correctly. The font displays correctly in illustrator when I use them in a layout (as shown on pic). They also display correctly and are fine in all other applications: Quark, InDesign, Photoshop etc. My fonts are setup correctly, pared down system fonts, other user folders emtpy etc. I have font nuked with Suitcase, Font Nuke and did a safe start up to clear font caches. several times. I've also removed these fonts from suitcase and loaded them in my system folder to see if that fixed it. Any suggestions would be appreciated. These fonts are used 1,000's of pages/files so replacing them with another verion isn't really an option.

They are probably a very old Type 1 font. Try checking the dates on the font files. Your best bet would be to get the OpenType versions of those fonts and install them.

A crazy font issue: Helsinki font

What is Helsinki font and where is it? Many web pages, help pages etc are showing up with garbage text. Copying and pasting into Textedit reveals the font as Helsinki. But that font cannot be found anywhere on the system??
I must have deactivated a necessary font, but I cannot find out what it is.
DUal 2.0 Ghz G5 Mac OS X (10.4)
PS I was sure I already posted this topic, but just cannot find it. Oh well -- maybe it was somewhere else.

If he can physically locate it, we could at least help him troubleshoot it.
That might be hard to do. Especially with cheap PC TrueType fonts. It's typical for programs like greeting card apps to dump a ton of fonts on your system that give you no clue what the font name is. That is, the internal name (which you see in your font lists) isn't the name the font itself is given. They're given stupid generic names like TTFONT343.TTF. Oh yeah, I know which font that is. :-P It's no better on the Mac side with these types of programs. They usually come with all of the fonts (sometimes hundreds) all dumped into one TrueType suitcase. So all you see is the one suitcase font which may be named something like "Greeting and banner fonts deluxe". But you of course can't see the names of all the TrueType fonts stuffed inside.

Some fonts in Safari not working

After updating to Safari 3.1, I noticed that some fonts in Safari now display as Helvetica fractions. However, when I use Firefox to view the same Web page, they display fine. I am using Suitcase Fusion 12.1.6 and manage Local Fonts. Some of the local fonts do not appear in the preview pane and say they are missing. I have located them and tried to add them (repaired first, all fonts do not need repair) but Suitcase will crash each time I locate the font.
Also, I noticed in Firefox that it is using the same fonts for the default set as Safari. Times & Courier. Yet these fonts aren't missing in Suitcase, so I am not sure what is happening here.

I am using Suitcase Fusion 12.1.6
12.1.7 is the current version. You should probably update.
but Suitcase will crash each time I locate the font.
Either the font is bad, or Suitcase's database is bad. That it tells you local fonts are missing points more towards a problem with Suitcase.
To reset Suitcase, close the application. It will give you a minor warning about available fonts. Click Quit. If you are NOT using Suitcase's vault, in your user account, go to ~/Library/Application Support/Extensis/Suitcase/ and delete the file:
Suitcase Font Database.suitcasevault
In the Preferences folder of your user account, delete the file:
com.extensis.SuitcaseFusion.plist
Relaunch Suitcase. You will need to reset any preferences in the program that you have changed from the defaults. You will also lose any sets you've created.
If you ARE using the vault, following the above steps will cause you to lose all fonts you've added to the vault. If you have backups of all of your fonts, this is no big deal. Otherwise, be forewarned that they will be gone. What you can do is move the database file to the desktop. Then if the problem with Suitcase continues, you've likely eliminated its database as the problem. Then you can quit the app again and move your original database back into the ~/Library/Application Support/Extensis/Suitcase/ folder.
please tell me if I nuke my font caches, how will it affect Suitcase Fusion.
It won't do anything to Suitcase. It doesn't even create them. For the most part, OS X builds your font cache files. If you remove them, the OS will rebuild them when you restart.

What fonts are used by Mac OS 10.8.2?

I am trying to solve the problem of the long loading time of all Microsoft Office apps on my Mac Pro tower. I use Suitcase Font utility so those programs should not have to "optimize every font on my Mac. I looked in the system fonts folder and see All these fonts that were loaded in with the OS (and some I added before I got Suitcas). I want to take all of them out except the ones used by Mac OS 10.8.2. Can anyone tell which ones they are?

OS X Mountain Lion: Font list

FAQ: Multiple master fonts on OS X

(This notice has been updated repeatedly to discuss: OS X 10.2, Adobe app bugs with 10.2 support, "cocoa" applications; Adobe phasing out MM font sales; Adobe discontinuing tech support for MM fonts. Last update: 23 Sep 2005.)
With versions 10.0 and 10.1, Mac OS X's native support for Type 1 and OpenType initially failed to include support for multiple master Type 1 fonts. This problem is fixed in OS X version 10.2 and later for applications using the "carbon" APIs, but not for applications using "cocoa" APIs. The two most common "cocoa" applications are TextEdit and Keynote.
Note that applications running in "Classic" mode are unaffected. They still need ATM for supporting Type 1 fonts, including multiple master fonts.
There is a workaround for some Adobe applications, such as InDesign 2, Illustrator 10 and Photoshop 7. You can rely on the native font imaging support in these applications, which is largely independent of the OS. Just put the fonts in the the Fonts folder in the application's folder, or the Application Support/Adobe/Fonts folder.
Additionally, the above-mentioned Adobe applications may have problems accessing all multiple master instances, when accessing the MM fonts which are installed at the system level, even in Mac OS X 10.2 and later. In some cases, this may be worked around by installing the fonts in the application's own fonts folder or the Application Support folder as described above.
PHASING OUT MULTIPLE MASTER FONTS
Adobe stopped making new MM and Type 1 fonts in 1999, and there is no equivalent to MM in the newer OpenType format. From late 2002 to mid 2003, Adobe phased out sales of multiple master fonts. As of this writing, they can only be bought from Adobe as part of Font Folio 9, which is still available for people who need compatibility with older fonts. The current version of Font Folio is Font Folio OpenType Edition, which shipped in August 2003.
At the end of 2004, Adobe stopped offering tech support for MM fonts, excepting for people with Font folio 9.

This inquiry is addressed to Thomas Phinney or any other font-savvy technician at Adobe. It relates to the very latest versions of the Mac OS (v.10.2.2) and Adobe Design applications (InDesign 2.0.1, Illustrator 10.0.3, Photoshop 7.0.1). It is about the use of Adobe's Multiple Master fonts. I was a big subscriber to the MM technology and have virtually all of the MM fonts Adobe issued. I have used them extensively in designs for the past four or five years. Now they have become problematic at best and Adobe has done precious little to keep MM fans informed regarding how to deal with the situation.
I have read every entry in this discussion thread and I still am unclear about where to install MM fonts and what the consequences might be. Furthermore, it took an hour of searching to find this thread. I am very disappointed in Adobe for not providing guidance on this issue in some very obvious, prominent place on their Web site.
As nearly as I can figure, the best place for MM fonts is in the Library>Application Support>Adobe>Fonts folder. Is this correct? And if it is, doesn't this mean that MM fonts will only be available to Adobe apps and therefore not be available to Xpress or Freehand or any other non-Adobe app?
And then I read that some MM instances still may not be available in Adobe apps and that "in some cases" this may be worked around by installing them in the applicaiton-specific fonts folder. Can they be installed in both locations at once? I don't think so. So do I now have to move MM fonts from folder to folder to insure performance? And what if I am working in all 3 Adobe apps at once (not at all uncommon)? What then?
Although this is the best advice I have been able to find so far and I thank you for it, it is still very "if-y." And very hard to come by. Adobe's behavior here is rather like the newspaper that makes a serious error on the front page and then prints an apology a week later on the bottom of an inside column on page 24 (or some other deep left-hand page), in 6 point type!!
The clear (although unstated) implication of this advice is that I should not expect font management programs (Suitcase, Font Reserve nor FontAgent Pro) to handle MM fonts. Is this correct? If it is, please state it clearly. This, of course means that MM fonts must always be active and will only appear in the font menus of Adobe applications (don't try to use them in Freehand or Xpress, let alone MS Word.) Does it not? And yet, most of my work is still done in Xpress, because most of my printers still aren't accepting InDesign files (most do not even have the app installed; hell, most are still running OS 9.)
Frankly, when I think of all the time and money that Adobe spent promoting the MM technology and all the money I (and many others) spent on MM fonts, I cannot help but feel betrayed by Adobe. Not for abandoning the technology (which I can accept as a matter settled in the marketplace), but for leaving high-and-dry we designers that bought into the technology and are now finding that not only does the new Mac OS have trouble with MM technology, but the Adobe design applicaitons for which it was intended also have trouble with it! What are we expected to do??? Will Adobe be issuing free postscript or OpenType versons of their MM fonts? No way! Or does Adobe expect us to convert all of our MM fonts to post script using a conversion utility (like TransType)? Yes, I rather suspect this is the route they would have us take.
Please do not reply to this inquiry (except to praise it, of course) unless you can speak for Adobe on the matter. Thank you.

Adobe Type 1 applied font error

Hi,
I am having a problem with Adobe Type 1 fonts in Indesign CS3 and 5 when applying via a vb.net app on Windows Xp/7 that I am developing.
I can select the font in the Indesign app and apply to type, no problem.
When applying via my vb.net app it fails and says the font family doesn't exist. I am applying the font to a paragraph as in line below:
        myParagraph.AppliedFont = "Helvetica Neue"
Works on OpenType and TrueType fonts without any issues.   Problem occurs whether using Extensis Suitcase font manager or with it disabled.
Haven't seen any other posts regarding this issue so not sure where the problem lies.
I have obtained the font names from the Indesign font list too so are the exact names that appear in the font/style menus.
Anyone got any ideas?
Thanks
Darren

Check if the font name is avail in the indesign applicatio.
for (var i=0; i<app.fonts.length; i++)
         $.writeln(app.fonts.item(i).name);
If the font name is avail in the application means the above given code will works. otherwise the font is not availabel so you need to install the fonts in application.

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