Super Duper and USB 2 external HD !!!!

hi guys
I intend to buy an external Firewire HD soon... but we just had another baby and have to save some money...
My question is:
Can I use Super Duper to clone OSX to my USB 2 HD? Even knowing it won't be a bootable driver!
But I believe it's better than nothing to have a copy of my OS in case I have any minor problem and want to go back to a previous configuration... in case an update makes my OS slower or I change my mind about an installed App. I can use the OS copy kept in my USB2 HD.
I know that if a have a major problem I won't be able to boot from my external HD but as I said I just want to make sure I can use it kind of like Windows' System Restore...
Cheers!

Nando:
I'm a little confused. I have two external USB 2.0/Firewire HDs and I use Superduper to clone my Macintosh HD in my iMac to both drives and I CAN boot from either of them. I bought Superduper specifically for cloning my internal drive because right after I got my iMac, the 250GB internal drive died and Apple had to replace it.
Booting from an external HD is great because it has already saved my bacon when Sherlock went nuts and I booted from an External HD and I used Superduper to revert Sherlock back to the last backup, which fixed the problem.
Whenever Apple comes out with an update, I back up my internal HD and then install it. If there is a problem, then I can reboot from an external drive and revert the internal to the last backup. Finally, and best of all, I can boot from an external drive and use Apple's Disk Utility to repair the internal HD without any hassles or version issues.
I purchased a Western Digital 160GB HD and I built another one (if you can call sticking a 300GB HD in a USB 2.0/Firewire external case and screwing it back together building my own) and they both work fine.
As far as price, I bought my external cases at CompUSA for around $60 and I just bought another Maxtor 300GB HD from Amazon for around $139. Drives are very cheap so if you want to build your own, you can save some money that way. Just be careful that if you decide to build your own that you make sure that the ATA I/F is the same on each unit. A case with an PATA I/F won't work with a SATA drive.
Good Luck,
Gerry

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KevinD wrote:
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rustytiger wrote:
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