Super duper or other clone app?

I want to add a clone app so that I can have an extra layer of backup peace of mind.
I've heard of Super Duper but want to know if there are others I should consider. I want ease of use, reliability, etc.
Suggestions?

Possibly (semantics).....but (sorry) I must still disagree (using startup manager will still boot into the recovery partition because TM is not bootable):
it will boot the MBP to the 4 option menu
that is the recovery partition, therefore you are booting into the recovery partition. TM will be just one of the options listed in the Utilities screen..
Hopefully this will help:
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201314
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204417
and this (scroll down to "restore complete contents....":
http://www.imore.com/how-set-and-restore-time-machine-backup
If you can find anything that confirms that Time Machine is bootable (on its own - without using recovery), I'll gladly add that to my "having learned something new today" list, but if it actually was, then the need for CCC or SuperDuper would dwindle rather quickly, wouldn't it.

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  • G4 MDD Cloning with Super Duper

    G4 MDD Cloning with Super Duper
    My G4: G4 MDD Single 1.25 Dual Boot. Running OS 10.3.9
    I purchased a new hard drive to replace my old 80 GB drive. Also, purchased a second new drive to use as a scratch disk. After cloning to the first new drive that I'll use for the boot drive, I will be taking my 80 GB drive out and putting it in a firewire case that I purchased, for backups.
    I never did this before and have some questions.
    I'm going to leave my 80 GB drive in my G4 while doing the clone. Can I run Super Duper that is on my 80 GB drive? Or do I have to put Super Duper on a Boot CD or just a Data CD to run Super Duper?
    To Clone my 80 GB to my new 640 GB for new boot drive, how do I do this? Do I use a Full Backup, is that the procedure?
    Can you tell me how I go about doing this?
    Another question I have about partitioning. I was told I could use Disk Utility that is on my 80 GB drive, that I don't have to use the boot CD to do this. Is that correct?
    Was told I use Disk Utility to first Partition my 2 new drives, then Format them both Journeled. Is that the way to go for formatting and partitioning my new drives? Then I would do the cloning with Super Duper.
    Another question: I run Photoshop CS2, Popcorn, Toast, and VisualHub. I will only wind up having 2 new Hard Drives in my G4. And will be taking the 80 GB drive out to use as a back up drive, after cloning.
    What is the best way to partition my new boot drive and new second drive for a scratch drive?
    I figured the boot drive would be first partition for my OS and second partition for my data/files.
    On my second drive, I would use a first partition for CS2 Scratch and a second partition for Popcorn, Toast, etc. Because I know the scratch for CS2 is random and the scratch for the others are more sequential.
    Would this be a good scenario for partitioning my 2 drives? Because I will only be using 2 hard drives in my computer.
    Also, what partition Sizes should I make? My Boot drive will be a 640 GB drive and my Scratch drive is a 320 GB drive.
    I'm new to this and would really appreciate some advise! thank You.

    hello,
    I've just used super duper for the first time a week ago to back-up before formatting my G4 MDD.
    It works perfect BUT I'd recommand you use the version for sale (not the free/trial one) as it allows you to access more options such as creating image disks.
    It's around 25$ or someting like that...
    I'd also recommand you to read the "read me first" pdf file that goes with it, it's very useful and clear.
    You have to install super duper on your computer and run it from there to back-up on the remote HD. You can either create a bootable version (if your external HD is a firewire one, and if it is HFS formated) or a disk image (I used this option since you have to erase the whole external disk to create a bootable back-up and I didn't want to do that).
    Concerning partitioning, check it, but I think you have to run disk utility from the bootable apple CD to create a partition (disk utility won't partition the disk on which the system is running).
    good luck

  • How do I restore a new Hard drive from Super Duper clone ?

    The Hard Drive in my 2010 iMac died and was replaced with a new one. Thankfully I have a clone made with Super Duper of the old drive. Do I just clone back on to the new internal drive ? The new drive, installed by Apple has OS10.6.8 installed on it now (by Apple ), which is the OS on the clone. Do I need to completely wipe the drive before restoring with my clone ? All that's on the new drive is the OS. Don't want to make any mistakes here.....

    1. Boot from your install DVD or Bootable Clone and open Disk Utility.
    2. Highlight the new HD in the list of drives and select the Partition tab.
    3. Under Volume Scheme select 1 Partition and click on the Options... button.
    4. Select GUID Partition Table in the drop down window and click OK.
    5. Set the Format to Mac OS Extended (Journaled) and click the Apply button.
    6. Once thats done then you can do a clean Install, restore from TM or the Bootable Clone.

  • Can Disk Utility clone just like CCC and Super Duper?

    Is it true that I can create a clone simply using disk utility?
    Ive been searching for hours - and i cannot find any support docs on this.
    can it be done?
    Thanks

    Yes. But it's so much easier to use Super Duper.
    Here's the Apple doc. I think you want. 
    DALE

  • Can i reconnect a "super duper" clone to "time machine" as original?

    hi there.
    i've recently upgraded the hard drive on my mbp 17, using super duper for cloning my stuff onto the new hd.
    only later i've discovered that using the same hd name doesn't mean time machine recognizes it as the same, root hd.
    i already slap myself endlessly for this naive mistake, as now i can only back my hd as another hd, multiplying the space and duration the backup requires.. still didn't let it go through.
    i have no real experience using the terminal, and since i didn't find any result online relating exactly to my situation, i can't readily try to perform any suggestion i've already found, for the risk of damaging something permanently.
    more info - leopard; time machine hd is accessible, as is the backed up info on it when reached through time machine.
    i only need a solution for making the new hard drive be accepted by time machine as the old one.
    thanx in advance,
    yaneev

    thx for the answer, i've actually read that article before.
    no, i didn't start a new BU sequence, as i'm totally insecure even opening terminal.
    by reformatting the HD i would lose months of mail backups etc.
    i did take care of periodically manual BUs of important stuff,
    so now i guess i just dont get the eventual purpose of TM..
    sometimes it feels sad to be lost somewhere between being a very advanced mac user and being just a newbie without a clue of how to mess things up...
    Message was edited by: yaneev

  • Super Duper help on unresponsive Macbook

    Hello, I've already posted before and nobody has responded. Let me ask one of the questions I could really use answered and hopefully people can help. So I am having a major HD issue and disk utility (booting from the install disk, can't even get past grey screen with apple logo and spinning wheel) says I have a verify or repair failure: Invalid Node structure. I have tried PRAM/NVRAM reset, Verbose, and safe mode, to no avail. I just would like to know if this Super Duper HD copying program will allow me to make a copy of my HD and save the info, then I'll just whip the disk and start new. I am having a hard time understanding how it can work unless your computer is working itself, which mine is not. How can I download the program if I can't even use my computer? How can I load it up on my computer if it does't even work? All I want to do is get a copy of my HD's contents or even specific files onto my backup drive, but I can't figure it out. I've already tried Restore on Disk Utility from the install disk, but has varying levels of not working. Sometimes my Macintosh HD is greyed out and won't even let me add it to the boxes on the right to make a copy, other times it does, but then won't let me add the destination drive (my backup drive). This whole thing is just killing me. I just got a backup drive for a christmas present and was going to backup everything, but then my Macbook went on the fritz. All I want to do is make a backup of my HD anyway I can. After that, I don't care, but I need my stuff. Any help would be appreciated in advance, thank you.
    Here is the link to the original question that has 0 replies if you need more background.
    https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4667043

    I have read these posts and have a comment. If your computer is running slower than it used to and you are running the same apps as you used to and your hard drive is NOT over 90% full then the problem is NOT being caused by having too little RAM. The RAM does not shrink. If all things are the same but it is now running slower then there is some other reason than lack of RAM. RAM is expensive enough that it is a real shame to buy more if it has nothing to do with the underlying performance problem.
    Clean caches with Onyx. Do all the other maintenance with Onyx. Run PreferentialTreatment. Reset PRAM. Boot from your external hard drive that you have cloned a copy of your main drive onto. You do have a clone of the main drive don't you?
    A cloned copy of your hard drive is invaluable for trouble shooting and the day may very likely come that you will be extremely grateful that you spent the dollars for one. It is so easy to clone your hard drive and then to clone the external back to the internal if need be. Everything will be just how you left it. Far simpler and more effective than making a copy of your User folder and then reinstalling the OS from the DVD. The later can take many hours and much work to get things the way you had them. Cloning is virtually effortless.

  • Super Duper Damages Shared Components

    After losing a hard drive on my 1.67 gh Pbook w 2 gigs ram, running 10.4.11 I'm using Super Duper to back-up the drive. I've created a bootable back-up on a FW800 external drive. Everytime I use Super Duper to back-up the drive, it damages Photoshop CS3 which won't launch. I have to re-install and it tells me it's currently repairing shared components. No other apps have problems after a backup, and I don't have any Pshop problem until I backup. I tried using Carbon Copy Cloner and got the same results, so it doesn't appear to be the backup app. The thing that's most confusing to me is why Pshop would be messed up on the laptop's HD, which was being duped?
    Any ideas?

    I've been using Superduper to clone my main drive to do testing and have had absolutely no problems with SD at all. And I've been doing this all summer. so its not the software.

  • Time Machine or Super Duper??

    I have been using Super Duper successfully under Tiger with an external Seagate USB Drive. Now that I have Snow Leopard... I was wondering about Time Machine. I only want to use it if it does something substantially better than Super Duper- outperforms in some way shape or form- why mess with a good thing?
    Message was edited by: Micah Eavenson

    Ditto what Mr. Boyd says, adding "every hour."
    Time Machine gives you a *much, much* better chance of recovering something you changed or deleted in error (Save instead of Save As, for example), or somehow got corrupted.
    Plus the ability to put your entire system back the way it was at the time of any prior backup.
    It's no doubt more than you want, but here's a comparison:
    There are three basic types of backup applications: Bootable Clone, Archive, and Time Machine.
    This is a general explanation and comparison. Many variations exist, of course, and some combine features of others.
    |
    _*BOOTABLE "CLONE"*_
    These make a complete, "bootable" copy of your entire system on an external disk/partition, a second internal disk/partition, or a partition of your internal disk.
    Advantages
    When your internal HD fails, you can boot and run from the clone immediately. Your Mac may run a bit slower, but it will run, and contain everything that was on your internal HD at the time the clone was made or last updated.
    You can test whether it will run, just by booting-up from it (but of course you can't be positive that everything is ok without actually running everything).
    If it's on an external drive, you can easily take it off-site.
    Disadvantages
    Making an entire clone takes quite a while. Most of the cloning apps have an update feature, but even that takes quite a while, as they must examine everything on your system to see what's changed and needs to be backed-up. Since this takes lots of time and CPU, it's usually not practical to do this more than once or twice a day.
    Normally, it only contains a copy of what was on your internal HD when the clone was made or last updated.
    Some do have a feature that allows it to retain the previous copy of items that have been changed or deleted, in the fashion of an archive, but of course that has the same disadvantages as an archive.
    |
    _*TRADITIONAL "ARCHIVE" BACKUPS*_
    These copy specific files and folders, or your entire system. With many, the first backup is a full copy of everything; subsequently, they're "incremental," copying only what's changed.
    Most of these will copy to an external disk or network locations; some to CDs/DVDs, or even tape.
    Advantages
    They're usually fairly simple and reliable. If the increments are on separate media, they can be taken off-site easily.
    Disadvantages
    Most have to examine everything to determine what's changed and needs to be backed-up. This takes considerable time and lots of CPU. If an entire system is being backed-up, it's usually not practical to do this more than once, or perhaps twice, a day.
    Restoring an individual item means you have to find the media and/or file it's on. You may have to dig through many incremental backups to find what you're looking for.
    Restoring an entire system (or large folder) usually means you have to restore the most recent Full backup, then each of the increments, in the proper order. This can get very tedious and error-prone.
    You have to manage the backups yourself. If they're on an external disk, sooner or later it will get full, and you have to do something, like figure out what to delete. If they're on removable media, you have to store them somewhere appropriate and keep track of them.
    |
    _*TIME MACHINE*_
    Advantages
    Similar to an archive, TM keeps copies of everything currently on your system, plus changed/deleted items, on an external disk or Time Capsule.
    Like many Archive apps, it first copies everything on your system, then does incremental backups of additions and changes. But TM's magic is, each backup appears to be a full one: a complete copy of everything on your system at the time of the backup.
    It uses an internal OSX log of what's changed to quickly determine what to copy, so most users can let it do it's hourly incremental backups without much effect on system performance. This means you have a much better chance to recover an item that was changed or deleted in error, or corrupted.
    Recovery of individual items is quite easy, via the TM interface. You don't have to find and mount media, or dig through many files to find what you're looking for.
    You can also recover your entire system to the exact state it was in at the time of any backup, even it that's a previous version of OSX.
    TM manages it's space for you, automatically. When your backup disk gets near full, TM will delete your oldest backup(s) to make room for new ones. But it will never delete it's copy of anything that's still on your internal HD, or was there at the time of any remaining backup. So all that's actually deleted are copies of items that were changed or deleted long ago.
    Disadvantages
    It's not bootable. If your internal HD fails, you can't boot directly from your TM backups. You must restore them, either to your repaired/replaced internal HD or an external disk. This is a fairly simple, but of course lengthy, procedure.
    TM doesn't keep it's copies of changed/deleted items forever, and you're usually not notified when it deletes them.
    It is fairly complex, and somewhat new, so may be a bit less reliable than some others.
    |
    RECOMMENDATION
    For most non-professional users, TM is simple, workable, and maintenance-free. But it does have it's disadvantages.
    That's why many folks use both Time Machine and a bootable clone, to have two, independent backups, with the advantages of both. If one fails, the other remains. If there's room, these can be in separate partitions of the same external drive, but it's a bit safer to have them on separate drives.
    |
    _*OFF-SITE BACKUPS*_
    As great as external drives are, they may not protect you from fire, flood, theft, or direct lightning strike on your power lines. So it's an excellent idea to get something off-site, to your safe deposit box, workplace, relative's house, etc.
    There are many ways to do that, depending on how much data you have, how often it changes, how valuable it is, and your level of paranoia.
    One of the the best strategies is to follow the above recommendation, but with a pair of portable externals, each 4 or more times the size of your data. Each has one partition the same size as your internal HD for a "bootable clone" and another with the remainder for TM.
    Use one drive for a week or so, then take it off-site and swap with the other. You do have to tell TM when you swap drives, via TM Preferences > Change Disk; and you shouldn't go more than about 10 days between swaps.
    There are other options, instead of the dual drives, or in addition to them. Your off-site backups don't necessarily have to be full backups, but can be just copies of critical information.
    If you have a MobileMe account, you can use Apple's Backup app to get relatively-small amounts of data (such as Address book, preferences, settings, etc.) off to iDisk daily. If not, you can use a 3rd-party service such as Mozy.
    You can also copy data to CDs or DVDs and take them off-site. Re-copy them every year or two, as their longevity is questionable.
    Backup strategies are not a "One Size Fits All" sort of thing. What's best varies by situation and preference.
    Just as an example, I use TM plus a CarbonCopyCloner clone (updated daily, while I'm snoozing) locally, plus small daily Backups to iDisk, plus some other things to DVD/RWs in my safe deposit box. Probably overkill, but as many of us have learned over the years, backups are one area where +Paranoia is Prudent!+

  • Cloning with Super Duper Question

    My existing startup disk is a 1TB hard drive and I would like to clone it to a 2 TB hard drive using Super Duper. I need more storage space on my startup drive for my growing photo files. Once I clone the old drive to a new 2 TB hard drive, can I just begin using that as my startup disk? Is it that simple?

    Will work just fine, just choose the new disk in System Preferences->Start Up disk and select the new 2TB. Might want to consider putting photo files on a separate disk and keep O/S and Apps on start up disk only, less risk and better performance if using A DAM such as AP3
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  • Super Duper and USB 2 external HD !!!!

    hi guys
    I intend to buy an external Firewire HD soon... but we just had another baby and have to save some money...
    My question is:
    Can I use Super Duper to clone OSX to my USB 2 HD? Even knowing it won't be a bootable driver!
    But I believe it's better than nothing to have a copy of my OS in case I have any minor problem and want to go back to a previous configuration... in case an update makes my OS slower or I change my mind about an installed App. I can use the OS copy kept in my USB2 HD.
    I know that if a have a major problem I won't be able to boot from my external HD but as I said I just want to make sure I can use it kind of like Windows' System Restore...
    Cheers!

    Nando:
    I'm a little confused. I have two external USB 2.0/Firewire HDs and I use Superduper to clone my Macintosh HD in my iMac to both drives and I CAN boot from either of them. I bought Superduper specifically for cloning my internal drive because right after I got my iMac, the 250GB internal drive died and Apple had to replace it.
    Booting from an external HD is great because it has already saved my bacon when Sherlock went nuts and I booted from an External HD and I used Superduper to revert Sherlock back to the last backup, which fixed the problem.
    Whenever Apple comes out with an update, I back up my internal HD and then install it. If there is a problem, then I can reboot from an external drive and revert the internal to the last backup. Finally, and best of all, I can boot from an external drive and use Apple's Disk Utility to repair the internal HD without any hassles or version issues.
    I purchased a Western Digital 160GB HD and I built another one (if you can call sticking a 300GB HD in a USB 2.0/Firewire external case and screwing it back together building my own) and they both work fine.
    As far as price, I bought my external cases at CompUSA for around $60 and I just bought another Maxtor 300GB HD from Amazon for around $139. Drives are very cheap so if you want to build your own, you can save some money that way. Just be careful that if you decide to build your own that you make sure that the ATA I/F is the same on each unit. A case with an PATA I/F won't work with a SATA drive.
    Good Luck,
    Gerry

  • Super Duper

    Hi Guys,
    I have an external HD connected to my MBP. I have manual backup folder on the same partition on my external drive. My external HD has only one partition which I also used for my Time Machine Backup. Last Saturday I have used Super Duper to create a bootable duplicate of my HD. To my surprise after the duplicate was done when I checked the content of my external HD the manual backup folder was missing and probably (sure off) was deleted by Super Duper when it was on the process of putting the clone content on my HD. The other thing that I discovered is that it didn't delete the content of my Time Machine Backup. Is there anyone here experience the same thing with Super Duper? Please let me know on how I will be able to recover some of the content of that Manual Backup Folder. I have tried using Techtool Pro and DW to no avail, it shows the folder but so far due to the size of it (90 GB) it was rendered unrecoverable by both apps.
    Thanks,
    Daniel D. Montecillo

    SuperDuper has a built-in special provision for Time Machine.
    From this SuperDuper FAQ support page:
    http://www.shirt-pocket.com/forums/showthread.php?s=eb00735c4ae761a33e3967210376 3909&t=3566
    How do I store a bootable backup side-by-side with my Time Machine data?
    ======================
    It's actually really simple. Assuming the Time Machine volume is properly partitioned and formatted for the Mac (as "GUID" for Intel Macs, or "Apple Partition Map" for Power PC), and is boot compatible to start with, just use "Backup - all files" with Smart Update to store a bootable backup on the drive. Your Time Machine backups will be preserved.
    The What's going to happen? section of the main window will tell you exactly what will happen to your Time Machine data.
    Note that it's better to store your SuperDuper! backup on its own partition, because Time Machine will eventually take over the entire drive... but it's not required, and if you have a large backup drive and a relatively small source, it will take a very long time.
    Finally, if you do have your backup side-by-side with Time Machine data, and you want to start up from it and do a full restore, use the "Restore - all files" script rather than "Backup - all files". This works just like "Backup - all files", but skips the Time Machine data (which you don't want copied).
    I tried setting this up using my Time Machine volume as a target, just to see the "What's going to happen" window, but I didn't then proceed. Here's the window I got:

  • .trash and super duper

    This will be confusing but I will appreciate any advice. The apple genius was not sure he knew the answer so maybe someone here knows what I should do.
    I'm not sure it matters how this happened but it started with a failing hard drive and superduper. It's a long story but I ended up with 152 gb of files (all user files, all photos) duplicated on my external drive. I didn't realize this for awhile but when I did, I put all all the duplicates in the trash. Even though .trash files are hidden, they take up space on my external drive plus on my back up drive. I am afraid to empty the trash because I don't understand where the files really are or where the trash is since the only place I see a trash can is in the dock, not on my external drives. I use super duper to clone my mac hd as well as my external drive. I discovered what had happened when I checked the activity monitor and saw that my drives had suddenly lost all that space. Since I can't easily undo emptying the trash and can't experiment with one file, I am really afraid that I can create havoc with the system. Super Duper told me it's a bad idea to keep a lot of files in the trash. I sense that I just don't know enough about this to decide what to do. any help much appreciated.
    Thanks.

    you can see the hidden trash files. They began with a .Trash
    slotless is an external flash drive.
    /Volumes/Spotless/.Trash
    The user Mac has a hidden trash folder in the home folder.
    /Users/mac/.Trash
    Macintosh-HD -> Applications -> Utilities -> Terminal
    #Show hidden files. All file icons come out dimmed.
    defaults write com.apple.finder AppleShowAllFiles TRUE
    killall Finder
    #Back to normal. Icon are bright. Hidden files are hidden.
    defaults write com.apple.finder AppleShowAllFiles FALSE
    killall Finder

  • Time Machine in addition to Super Duper

    My previous backup external drive died and I just got a replacement. I have always used Super Duper (which is great) to back up my computers so that I have a bootable backup. The question is---does it make any sense to partition the drive so that there is one partition for Super Duper and a second for Time Machine? What benefit would Time Machine add?
    Thanks

    Keep in mind that TimeMachine backs up changes every hour, keeps daily backups for a month and weekly backups thereafter. At work my backup set is about 125GB and I began backing up to the current TM drive in August. The TM backup is now 244GB. Prior to upgrading to 10.6 my home computer's TM backup was nearly 3 times the size of the backup set. To me, the value of TM is the redundancy and its value is diminished when older backups have to be erased to make room for a new backup set. For this reason I recommend that a TM drive be no less than twice the size of the backup set and closer to three times the size. This is in addition to the SD! clone I keep.
    If your external drive is large enough then yes, it is fine to partition it. If it isn't, use one method or the other and/or purchase a second backup drive. Also, keep in mind that SD! can be set to perform scheduled backups and it can also keep archives (copies of files that were changed since the last backup).

  • Would Super Duper!/Time Machine function w/ Littlle disk - MacBook 2.0

    RE: Would Super Duper!/Time Machine function w/ Littlle disk - MacBook 2.0
    Thanks to all who read on...
    The situation at hand is this...
    I have 2 Lacie Little Disk Drives 120 & 250 GB, that I once used to make FW clones from iBook G4 to backup my information , applications etc.
    1.0_How would I translate such operations with a substituted Macbook 2.0 Aluminum?
    1.1_It seems the Macbook doesnt have any FW ports, nor is their any reliable source stating a T-100-to-Firewire adapter would work with OS 10.5.6...?
    THAT being said, the USB ports do recognize the built in Lacie Hi-Speed 2.0 extractable USB Connector. (See Topic: Little disk on a hub with Macbook?)
    I have given Super duper a try to make a Leopard (10.5.6) over this Hi-speed USB 2.0 and it seems to have made the backup, although I haven't as of yet actually used this clone -yet.
    2.0_How can I take advantage of Leopards Time Machine instead of Super Duper!?
    2.1_Whilst still possibly incorporating the usb/firewire Lacie Little disks? (As once sod on THIS very site)

    I'll agree with the previous two posts. With TimeMachine, you always have your most current and previous versions of data backed up. With SuperDuper (or CarbonCopyCloner), your data is only as current as the last time you ran a backup. The major benefit of SuperDuper (or CCC) is that you can create a bootable backup. If you need to restore your system from a TimeMachine backup, you'll need to start your system from your install DVD which will allow you to restore your system from your TimeMachine backup. I think the biggest benefit to having an external clone is in case your internal drive fails. Since you can't boot from a TimeMachine backup, if you have a hard drive failure, you're out of luck until you get that drive replaced. If you have an external clone, you can simply boot up from that which will allow you to continue working until you can get your internal drive replaced. As has been mentioned, both have their benefits and using both to compliment each other is your best option. Since TimeMachine is part of OS X and both SuperDuper and CarbonCopyCloner are free for full clones (actually, CCC is completely free for all functionality now), there's really no reason not to use both.

  • Super Duper seems to be frozen

    I bought a WD SE16 500 gig hard drive and used Super Duper to clone my original HD. But the progress bar has been stuck at "23.15 GB copied" for the last 30 minutes. Is this normal? This is my first time using Super Duper. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

    Thanks for answering. Last night, I let Super Duper run its course for another hour or so. Then all of a sudden it says that 175 gigs has been copied, and it finished copying shortly thereafter. But now I have another problem.
    Last night, I set the new hard drive as my start up disk. Then, I opened up the programs I normally use and "kept them in the dock". I restarted the computer with my newly copied hard drive as the new start up disk, but the dock wipes out everything I add to it and goes back to the default settings and programs. I've done this a few times already and it's always the same result: default dock settings and programs.
    Now that I think about it. This happened once right before I cloned my original hard drive. At that time, I downloaded the latest update (security and quicktime). On top of that, keychain keeps popping up and asking me for the password. It never used to do that. Is anyone else having the same problems? Do you guys think it's because of the update or was something corrupted in the copying. Any advice? Thanks!
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