Super long render times for easy stuff.

Hi there,
I'm new to the Final Cut Express HD (3.51) world and it seems like rendering takes unusually long.
I have the horsepower to handle it (new MacBook Pro 15 inch with 2GB RAM and LaCie external FW800 drive), but it just really bogs down when I change any of the parameters of the effects I have going on (feathered crop, motion, motion blur, etc.). And, this IS only a slideshow of pictures I'm working on here.
Anyway, any advice or help would be appreciated.
Thanks

you can also try reducing you resolution settings to 50% in your timeline settings, while you're working on your moves/pans. Although, not as pretty, this will definitely quicken the pace. Depending on how familiar you are with the images, you can reduce even more, (33-25%). Once you feel like you've nailed your Ken Burns, kick the reso. back up to 100%, render, and take a look.

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