Surround 5.1, HELP!

So i'm about to start a little project recording some audio for film on Logic Pro. Just before i start though.
I just want to check can i plug my MacBook into my dvd player through ADAT or SPDIF for 5.1?
I'm not looking for quality sound and being directed to using 5.1 studio monitors. I just want to use my dvd player speakers for referencing.
Thanks!

Just adding, the dvd player i have is this one, i'm looking to connect via the 'optical in' port.
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Hello all.
Still on Logic 7. Haven't made the jump.
Wanting to write and monitor in 5.1 for television. Have never done this in Logic. We use Motu 24 i/o boxes. Want to set the digital outs as my 5.1 outs going into Pro Tools on another machine, then have Pro Tools come up on the board in 5.1.
Here's the problem:
The room is set up, but Logic is not. When I go to the Preferences>Audio>Surround page, I cannot select outputs higher than 32. Problem is, my digital outs are 33-48. Is this a limitation in Logic 7? I went to the audio configuration page, and my outs are all available. If I select an instrument or audio track, I can send them out stereo from 33-48, but the preferences>audio>surround page does not allow this.
Any ideas? Am I missing a page somewhere that enables these outs? Is it in the environment?
Any help is GREATLY appreciated on this one. I have been at it for a while without a solution.
Many thanks,
ETMi

Mark Isham wrote:
Hello all.
Still on Logic 7. Haven't made the jump.
Wanting to write and monitor in 5.1 for television. Have never done this in Logic. We use Motu 24 i/o boxes. Want to set the digital outs as my 5.1 outs going into Pro Tools on another machine, then have Pro Tools come up on the board in 5.1.
Here's the problem:
The room is set up, but Logic is not. When I go to the Preferences>Audio>Surround page, I cannot select outputs higher than 32. Problem is, my digital outs are 33-48. Is this a limitation in Logic 7? I went to the audio configuration page, and my outs are all available. If I select an instrument or audio track, I can send them out stereo from 33-48, but the preferences>audio>surround page does not allow this.
Any ideas? Am I missing a page somewhere that enables these outs? Is it in the environment?
Any help is GREATLY appreciated on this one. I have been at it for a while without a solution.
Many thanks,
ETMi
Hi Mark,
Make sure your outputs in the Motu setup are all active all the way to channels 48.
Otherwise, I suggest you conform to the standard that most other studios use, and use outputs 1-8 as your main outputs.
Output 1-6 can be the surround, and 7+8 can be a stereo output.
That is, if you cannot get the digital outputs to work.
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