Surround 5.1 problem

Hi there,
a year ago I created a stereo session to make a multisession mix in Audition 5.5. But now I want to use this mix to create a surround 5.1 mix. But I just cant do it. I changed the output from every track to Default Surround Output, used the track panner and then I exported the entire session as the multitrack mixdown, choosing the 5.1 mixdown option. But I just can't get it to work..... All I get is a wav with complete silence.
So then I thought: why not go back to version 3, with which I made surround-CDs in the past? The 5.1-output was 6 separate wav-files and I used other software to create the surroundfiles. So I tried to export my multitrack mix to separate wav-files by choosing File - Export - Multitrack mixdown - Entire session and there checking all the single tracks I want to export instead of choosing Master - Stereo or Master - 5.1. But what happens then is that I get all single wav-files (so far so good, because I can load these into version 3 and then make a surround), but half of the wav-files is 1 Kb. The rest is OK.
Then I tried to open the Audition 5.5 session in version 3, but that doesn't work either. Is there a way to export the session so I can open it in version 3? I tried with XML, but that doesn't seem to work......
Can anyone help me? Or tell me where I can find a very detailed (step-by-step) manual how to create a surround wavfile that Nero Burning ROM will accept to burn a surround CD? Or is this impossible, because I chose a stereo-session instead of a 5.1-session and do I have to create a new 5.1-session and do the mixing all over again?? Hope not....
Thank you in advance!
Ton

Thank you for your reply. Of course all the tracks are routed through the master. And it's always the same tracks that will show up being 1 Kb large. I compared every setting (as far as I know) of working tracks with non-working ones, but I can't see any differences, so to me it's a complete mystery as well why these tracks show up like this, while other tracks are just fine.
I opened a sesx file and saw that this is XML as well. Didn't think of checking that, so thanks for your help. Now I'm going to try and change it manually to a surround session, like you did succesfully. It's worth a try. Better than spending 60 bucks on the Translator tool and not knowing it it'll do the job . Besides, it's for one mix only......
Is it possible that I'm not getting a correct surround wav file because I didn't choose a surround session? Is that why I get a wav file that's empty, complete silence?? If so, it's strange that one can add the output to a multitrack 5.1 mixdown..... why is that possibility not greyed out ?
Thanks again for your help! Appreciate it!
Ton

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I have something that I can't seem to fix. I'm trying to render to MPEG2 but the job keeps failing with "Status: Failed - 3x should not be auto-detect at this point" error message in the status window of Batch Monitor. The logs show:
<mrk tms="273146978.300" tmt="08/28/2009 12:09:38.300" pid="278" kind="end" what="service-request" req-id="D1FA9E39-FD27-4C15-A038-A785D4C804B5:5" msg="Processing service request error: should not be auto-detect at this point"></mrk>
Weirdly enough I rendered a surround AC3 without problems earlier.
All Pro apps are completely updated but the OS is still on 10.5.8. I've trashed the Compressor preferences in my home folder and this problem occur with both rendering to (virtual) Cluster (which was trouble free up till now) and th This Computer.
Anyone have any suggestions?

I have something that I can't seem to fix. I'm trying to render to MPEG2 but the job keeps failing with "Status: Failed - 3x should not be auto-detect at this point" error message in the status window of Batch Monitor. The logs show:
<mrk tms="273146978.300" tmt="08/28/2009 12:09:38.300" pid="278" kind="end" what="service-request" req-id="D1FA9E39-FD27-4C15-A038-A785D4C804B5:5" msg="Processing service request error: should not be auto-detect at this point"></mrk>
Weirdly enough I rendered a surround AC3 without problems earlier.
All Pro apps are completely updated but the OS is still on 10.5.8. I've trashed the Compressor preferences in my home folder and this problem occur with both rendering to (virtual) Cluster (which was trouble free up till now) and th This Computer.
Anyone have any suggestions?

Live trace, gradients and compounding paths

I have a complex shape, and I want to have a copy behind of it that is filled.. the shape itself is a combination of stokes and fills, so a straight-out fill doesn't look good at all.. I can get it all colored the same way using live paint groups to only fill in the areas that are completely surrounded. The problem with that, though, is a gradient will apply separately to each object, but if I make a compound path it fills in some bits of the strokes the protrude as lines into the outside (it's a ironwork sort of pattern).
The only way i can think to do this automatically would be to color all the selections the same and then rasterize it and then live trace it so it's one object and then apply the gradient to that, but I feel there's probably a more straightforward way. Not sure I explained that properly, if something's unclear I'll be happy to elaborate

"The problem with that, though, is a gradient will apply separately to each object..."
Once you get to this point, you can grab the gradient tool from the tool panel and drag across all of the filled shapes. This will make one uniform gradient seen through the many pieces of the selection.
Give that a try, let us know how it goes.

Static Pop Upon Playback of "What U Hear" SB X-Fi Titanium PCI-E

Hi,
I've spent a great deal of time over the past couple of months trying to resolve this problem with no luck. If someone can provide a solution I would be most grateful.
System
Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium PCI-e with latest Creative drivers
Windows XP Pro SP3
ASUS P5KC with Intel E8400 with latest BIOS and chipset
ATI Radeon HD6450 with latest drivers (HDMI Audio disabled)
Logitech Z-5300 5.1 Channel Surround Speaker System
PROBLEM
When recording is made from any source using "What U Hear" source the original recording is flawless. However, when I playback the "What U Hear" file there are brief (.5 second) bursts of static that occur about every 2-5 seconds.
FAILED EFFORTS
1. Uninstalled and reinstalled all Creative drivers and programs.
2. Disabled ATI Radeon HD6450 HDMI Audio.
3. Installed latest Microsoft LifeCam VX5000 driver and turned it off in Audio devices.
4. Uninstalled various other sound related software -- Toshiba Bluetooth, Anysoft Video Recorder.
5. Disabled all optional background programs -- antivirus, PLEX, etc.
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
What U Hear recordings have worked on this system in the past.
Thanks in advance for your assistance!

Johnny,
Thanks for the reply.
I have the X-Fi Titanium installed on a test system. I am not getting any of this crackling sound. Do you hear crackling noise during the recording process?
There could be other factors that may contribute to the crackling noise. If you have not already done so, it would be advisable to contact our Customer Support for further assistance.

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