Survey about Mac OS X 10.4.9 and Final Cut Express

Hi(Bonjour)!
Regarding the huge amount of posts, threadjack and splits of the topic about FCE 2.0.3 and OS X 10.4.9, I suggest to make a new topic about individual experiment with the combo 10.4.9 and FCE.
If you have tried this combinaison and want to share your results, feel free to post here.
We need to know the version of MAC OS X, Quicktime, Final Cut Express, the exact model and configuration of your MAC (external HD, the port where camcorder is plugged) etc.
Michel Boissonneault

I have a 800mhz, 15" iMac with 768 ram. I'm running OS 10.4.9, FCEHD 3.0, QT 7.1.5, two external HD (250gb Wiebetech and 120gb EzQuest. The two external hd are daisychained together with one FW connection to the iMac. My camcorder is a Panasonic PV-GS500 and is FW to the iMac.
Immediately after upgrading the OS and QT I was unable to capture video without getting dropped frames.
I purchased the FCEHD upgrade to 3.5 and should receive it this weekend...hoping it solves the dropped frames issues.
How is that mon ami?

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Michel Boissonneault
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Hello all- I'm a lifelong p.c. user who is going to make the jump to macs so I can use audio and video software for editing and rendering much more smoothly. Initially, I'm going to be using Pro Tools and Final Cut Express. This computer will be dedicated, where I'll be using ONLY Pro Tools or FCE on it. I have an HD camcorder that records to AVCHD, and want smooth playback while editing. (Sony Vegas 8 on my p.c. just ain't cuttin' it- very choppy).
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Welcome to the forum,
If you want to go AVCHD is pretty simple.
You require a Mac that has _Intel processors_ and expandable to at least _two gig_ of RAM.
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I am about to make a purchase of a new mac. I already have a mac mini PPC, but it is too slow...
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I like to make movies on my mac but I hate iMovie 08 so I constantly use iMovie HD 06. Should I go to Final Cut Express 4 or just stick with iMovie HD 06?

There is no doubt that FCE 4 will run on an Intel mini - the GMA graphics processor is compatible. There is also no doubt that an iMac would give you somewhat better overall performance, though it's important perhaps to note that as complex as FCE is, it is actually a little less demanding on hardware than iMovie has traditionally been, so the difference between a mini with 2Gb RAM and a similarly equipped iMac will not be all that great in FCE, though it will become a little more noticeable if you continue to use iMovie 6.
The main reason for the performance difference between iMovie and FCE is that in order to provide a reasonably sophisticated video editing package that will run on very basic hardware, Apple relied heavily on caching techniques, meaning that while FCE basically spools from video and relies on CPU power, iMovie constantly moves data to and from the hard drive. The mini's hard drive is a (relatively) slow device in comparison to the iMac's - thus the iMac runs iMovie rather more seamlessly. In FCE, the difference is, as said, rather less clear unless you were to go for the top-end model.
If your budget can stretch to an iMac it makes sense to go that route simply because the extra power and overall performance (and the better graphics processor) will give you greater flexibility down the road. On the other hand, if funds are tight and you need to spend as little as reasonably possible, a mini will do fine, and is sufficient;y inexpensive that in a couple of years could be sold off and replaced without severe financial implications.
In terms of the choice between FCE or iMovie, beware that if you haven't used FCE before, the transition is not easy, and the learning curve for it is pretty steep. That said, it has far greater power and flexibility in terms of what you can achieve with it than has ever been possible with iMovie.
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if the OP used Migration Assistant or disk cloning
software to make a copy oif his system drive it is
possible to copy the app without using the
installation disks, although these methods of
transferring apps from PowerPC to Intel macs will
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