SUS on 10.4 server, 10.5 clients

Hi all
Mac OS X Server 10.4.11, fully patched on an Xserve G5. Serving OpenDirectory fine (DNS works, in other words).
Mac OS X Client 10.5.4, fully patched with the exception of security update 2008-005 and iTunes 7.1.1.
I started the Software Update Service, mirroring and activate ALL packages automagically. every package has a blue exclamation mark in the meantime - they are there in /usr/share/swupd/html.
I then point the client using WGM via a computer list > Preferences to http://server.inhouse.lan:8088/
After restarting the client, I see on the client in /Library/Managed Preferences/com.apple.SoftwareUpdate.plist the client has got the settings I want it to have.
I then run Software Update (GUI/CLI doesn't matter) and get "You're software is up-to-date."
But it is not: when NOT using managed preferences, there are the to updates mentioned above.
If I set the client to use http://192.168.6.11:8080/ the GUI Software Update tells me: There is new software for your computer - but it doesn't show anything in the window. It's empty.
I also tried the hint with http://blabla.bla:8088/index.sucatalog. To no avail - "your software is up to date".
OK. Thanks for reading this. Now, does anyone see a mistake on my side? Something I am missing? Or should we conclude SUS on 10.4 server doesn't work with 10.5 clients - a bug?
--greg

Hi Peter
Many thanks for your time.
Peter Scordamaglia wrote:
It is not a bug (not be Apple, anyhow) a 10.4 SUS server can only update a 10.4 Client (and probably OLDER), it cannot. You will need to upgrade the server to 10.5 Server update 10.5 Clients.
I was able to point 10.5 clients to the 10.4 server. They downloaded all updates from my SUS that also where available via Apple at that time.
I'm not sure if there were any machine specific updates, but I think the security updates are, and that was what downloaded (as well as an iTunes update).
Antonio Rocco wrote:
10.4 Software Update Server can update 10.4 clients as well as 10.5 clients but only for updates that are specific to both operating systems. For example: the latest versions of iTunes or Quicktime. For OS specific software like the 10.5.1 update 10.4 Server will download and make it available but it can't push it out to 10.5 Clients. For this to happen you will need a 10.5 Software Update Server. A 10.5 Software Update Server will update both OS versions.
Peter
I don't see it's stated there 10.4 SUS would not work with 10.5 clients. It says 10.4 can't push which was different of my approach to make the client pull the update from a specified server.
Thank you again for your time!
--greg

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if (!rdr.IsDBNull(10))
dc.uniqueNumber = Convert.ToInt32(rdr.GetValue(10));
listTest.Add(dc);
rdr.Close();
con.Close();
rdr.Dispose();
cmd.Dispose();
con.Dispose();
Thanks for your time
Victoria

Here are the HTTP Headers as monitored on the client side. Notice the good.txt file includes a GET as it's initial request. All works fine in this case. However, the initial request in the bad.txt is a POST. This is odd since the URL was opened using the same shortcut in both incidents and the browser was closed between each trace that was taken. I've also reviewed the shortcut with notepad to verify it does not include unwanted data such as the JSESSIONID info....etc.
Once you have reviewed the HTTP headers, I have these questions.
1. IIS is sending the 100 Continue messages as you mention, but why is the CSS injecting the cookie in a 100 response that is not typically processed by the client? The bad.txt file shows the client receiving two ARPT cookies because the first cookie in the 100 continue response was ignored.
2. I know Cisco is not really in the business of troubleshooting browser behaviour. But do you know why the browser would behave differently....GET in one request and a POST in the next? We do not wish to get into modifying the browser, so I'm hoping we can provide a solution on the server side that will allow the browser to function this way if it chooses to do so. Do you think it would make sence to push the state management up a level to the cookie handed out by JRUN? This way, the cookie would not be handed back in a 100 response from IIS, and we could tell the CSS to monitor the JRUN cookie. Of course this would require we determine how to manage this cookie either by modifying to cookie to have static data for each server, or by using the right method of hashing...etc.
Chris

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Hello all, after some advice.
Weve recently built up a 10.4.7 Server running among other services, Software Update. We've been successfull in pushing out managed pref's to clients to retarget their update server etc, updates are working so thats fine..
heres the issue. most of our mac clients arent admins, they are regular users, thus every time an update needs to install - it will prompt for an admin user's credentials, which we cant have happening.
Is there a way, to configure either the update server or the clients, to receive updates and install them silently for instance? with no user intervention?
One way im considering, its a bit messy though, is using apple remote desktop to issue a UNIX command to all selected Mac's, telling them to launch 'softwareupdate -i -r' and execute as root (afaik, you need to be root to execute softwareupdate manually or something) But this seems flaky in testing so far.
Thanks for any help.
Eliot.

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it was the latest firmware update for the INTEL iMac's, according to software update via the terminal, it had downloaded and installed the update, and then required a reboot. ok, but after reboot, it hadnt kicked into the firmware install mode. I actually had to download this update via the gui software update in order for it to function correctly, ie reboot, install firmware, reboot again. which is odd?? could be a problem for future updates like this, when using an automated cron task for updates? Or am I just missing something, hehe?
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Hi all,
I want to Transfer a File from Unix Server to Window Client System using Webutil. But below mention code is not working.
DECLARE
     V_Server_Path VARCHAR2(500) := Null;
     V_Client_Path VARCHAR2(500) := Null;
BEGIN
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END IF;
END;
Can anyone suggest me,Why the above code is not working and what to do for solve the Problem.
Regards
Gany

Hello,
You have more chances to get an answer in the Oracle Forms OTN Forum :
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