Sustain pedal problem

Hi, this is probably a pretty basic problem but it's confusing me...
I have an Edirol PCR800 and Mainstage....that's it. When I attach a sustain pedal (and Ive tried 4 now), Mainstage sees the pedal as moving upwards when I press down on it. The result is that releasing the pedal sustains the notes instead of holding it down, and holding the pedal down stops the notes from being held, which is the opposite of what anyone would want, I'd imagine. Has anyone got any ideas as to whats happening?

I had the same issue. It worked in reverse.
My solution was on my keyboard. I could set the pedal polarity (1 or 2). That solved the problem.
If that's not a solution. The polarity of the Sustain pedals are on some keyboards calculated when it is powered up. On power up, the Sustain pedal is assumed to be in the off position. So, if you want the Sustain pedal to be off when it is not depressed, make sure not to press the pedal when you power up. To reverse the pedal polarity, just press and hold the pedal when you power up.
Not sure if that'll work on yours, but worth a try.
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