Swap Processor from G4 Quicksilver 80Mhz to G4 Digital Audio 466Mhz

If I swap the processor from quicksilver 800mhz and put it in my digital audio 466 mhz G4 will it work?
g4   Mac OS X (10.4.5)  

Hi
it is actually possible, although whether it's worth the effort I'm not sure.
The CPU upgrades database at www.xlr8yourmac.com contains a number of reports from people who have installed a Quicksilver processor in a Digital Audio (select Apple AGP Slot for the Mac Model and Apple for the card manufacturer).
Both have a 133MHz system bus so the processor will run at the same speed (800MHz) without having to fiddle with the resistors that control the bus multiplier ratio.
The main issue though is the Quicksilver processor card requires a 12 volt feed to one of the screws that secure it to the logic board, although this can be taken from a spare hard drive molex power connector.
There are also possible heat issues, as the Quicksilver has a small fan between the processor heat sink and back of the case, where as I don't think the 466MHz Digital Audio has a processor fan at all.
I hope this helps.

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