Swapping Fn and Ctrl on IdeaPad U330

After reading the review http://www.jrin.net/2008_09_26/lenovo-ideapad-u330-initial-hands-on-review of new IdeaPad U330 I understood that the "Fn" key is in the left corner of the keyboard, this is a big problem for users that often are using classic keyboards (on desktops at work or home) and switching to the notebook (at school).
I am waiting for my IdeaPad U330 that I was billed for, but I feel that I`ll have problems with the "Fn" key, so:
I request Lenovo to make a change in BIOS or somewhere else for swapping the functions of "Fn" ant "Ctrl" keys, there is no problem for me if on the key it will be written something else, but the user has to have the possibility to choose!
Other user please sustain me here!

contact middleton
he managed to make ctrl-fn patch for y550, maybe he can as the same for u330.

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I was redirected from this topic https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=139362.0
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I bought a used T60. I am used to using HP Pavilions where the Fn and Ctrl keys are in the opposite positions as on the T60, and I am having trouble retriaining my fingers.
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I have never messed with BIOS stuff before, but I did interrupt booting, get to it, but do not see swapping the Fn and Ctrl keys listed among the keyboard options. So I am guessing this feature is maybe in a newer verison of the BIOS.
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Not exactly true. You can't swap the keys with ORIGINAL BIOS - there are modded versions available that will let you do it.
Read (and download) from here: http://forum.notebookreview.com/lenovo-ibm/474396-fn-ctrl-swap-all-lenovo-laptops-solved.html
Note! This is unofficial BIOS images - you might brick your computer, and neither I, nor Lenovo take any responsibility
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try [Ukelele|http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsi&id=ukelele].

Swap cmd and ctrl keys?

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Swapping Fn and ctrl

I read that it was possible (from another thread) to swap the fn and ctrl in system preferences. I would love to be able to try that out and see how well it works. I looked at the Keyboard and Mouse section under system prefernces but couldn't find any settings that let me do this.
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Input Remapper will allow you to make kay assignment changes
http://www.olofsson.info/index.html?inputremapper.html
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My H430 keyboard, like many Lenovo products, has the Ctrl and Fn keys swapped relative to the rest of the civilized computing world. Since I use keyboard shortcuts a lot when coding, this is a pain. Apparently the Thinkpad series has a BIOS option to swap the keys... but I don't see that option in the H430 BIOS.
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(Yes, I've read the explanation: in 1992 a highly-placed Macaque monkey in Lenovo's design department swapped the keys, and ever since then Lenovo has believed that some gadget of their own devising is more important than user ergonomics. Apparantly the Macaque monkey clique remains in control... )
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From Wikipedia:
There is not yet an agreed standard for the placement of the Fn key. It is usually placed adjacent to the left Control key, shrinking and displacing it in the process. The control key is most frequently associated with handy modifier keystrokes such as cut-and-paste, or application shortcuts such as control-s to save. The wide control key on a full size IBM PC keyboard layout allows users to become accustomed to using either the left or right side of the key for these shortcuts. In turn, shrinking and displacing it either to the left or the right causes considerable user-annoyance for a set of users....Further aggravating the situation is the fact that the Fn key is a hardware meta-key which is not remappable through operating system level keyboard remapping tools, ...
Most manufacturers today have shrunk and displaced the control key to the lower-left corner of the keyboard, placing Fn to its right. This includes most laptops from HP, Dell, Samsung, and Lenovo Ideapads.
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Does Lenovo use a non-standard keyboard microcontroller interface, thus making it harder to swap out with an aftermarket keyboard? Huh!
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Hello,
I just got a g560 with an intel i5-450m cpu, 320 gb hard drive, and 4gb ram.
I got this laptop for 599 off newegg and i'm loving it. However, what really irks
me is the placement of the fn and ctrl keys. Because I am a desktop user, I
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hey,
thanx for the info.
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