Switch On Time Mac Pro 5.1

Hello,
i have a Mac Pro 5.1 Mid 2010, 2 x 2,93 Ghz.
When i switch on my Mac Pro with a RAM-Configuration of 4GB, it takes about 4 secounds to see the grey screen with the Apple-Logo.
A RAM-Configuration of 24GB uses about 24 secounds to see the grey screen.
Is that normal that a Mac Pro with more RAM uses more time to come up?
I´m not talking about booting from disk, only the time after switch on to the grey screen.
Thanks to all

Use whichever you like, but they will not mix-and-match.
Early on, larger sizes were only available as RDIMMs, which would not play nice with others. This was a requirement because those early DIMMs required multiple chips, so you needed the Register to provide one apparent Bus load.
Today, only the 16GB modules are RDIMMs.
So if you are not headed for 64GB, use unregistered.
In the US, I recommend this low-cost high-service Vendor:
http://www.datamemorysystems.com/apple-mac-pro-memory-upgrades/
Their line-items clearly call out which are Registered.

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Message was edited by: PlaneGeek

I can only comment on a few of the items.
1. I haven't had any 'real' problems with any of my upgrades to Leopard on my various machines. Leopard has been very stable for me.
3. GFTrout is right on the fonts, but there are solutions for PostScript fonts. Here is [one|http://guides.macrumors.com/UsingWindows_and_X11_PostScript_Fonts_in_Mac_OSX].
5. None of my Mac Pros are prone to overheating. It can get pretty hot here in OKC too. I wouldn't think you would have problems unless the room it was in wasn't air-conditioned. My office at home in the summer (with AC on) usually ends up being in the upper 70's to lower 80's during the day (west-facing with windows.) As for avoiding overheating, it is wise to keep the MP off of the floor, plenty of air circulating at the front of the MP and a decent amount of space behind the MP for exhaust. The exhaust can get pretty hot so you want air to be able to get behind the MP to dissipate that heat.
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Welcom to the Apple Forums!
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To all who are experiencing any of the frequently reported problems with the hardware/software combination listed in the subject heading:
I purchased the ATI X1900 XT as an upgrade fro my Mac Pro in January. I never experienced any issues with the card in OS X Tiger, but several months ago I began to experience overheating issues in Windows XP (Boot Camp) when playing graphics-intensive games. The overheating caused visible graphics corruption/artifacts, graphics system resets and even spontaneous system restarts. The frequency and severity of these symptoms actually increased over time, leading me to believe that the card was either defective or that the overheating was causing degenerative/cumulative damage to the graphics hardware.
I recently upgraded to OS X Leopard, and all **** broke loose. Immediately after upgrading, I began to experience frequent graphics corruption/artifacts (in the form of spurious horizontal lines), system lockups/freezes and spontaneous system restarts. None of these issues were present in Tiger. The system became completely unreliable and essentially unusable.
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I would urge anyone who is experiencing problems with the X1900 XT (in either Windows or OS X) to have their card replaced by Apple - assuming that their card or system is still under warranty, that is.
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Theory #2. The thermal management system of the X1900 XT (all revisions) is inherently flawed. The card will slowly cook itself over time, and the effects are degenerative and cumulative. As the age of the card increases, so will the occurrence of graphics corruption, system freezes and spontaneous system restarts, especially when playing graphics-intensive games or running OS X Leopard.
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Ah, yeah, have seen your post on Netkas.
There's only two, no three possibilites, as far as I can see:
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3. or it doesn't detect power on one of the cables correctly.
So either your 6 pin to 8 pin adapter is not the right one. Not the right setup of power lines and grounds.
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2 . Get a 2 x SATA two 1 x 6 pin adapter and connect to 2 SATA ports on the board. Gives you the 75 Watts for the 6 pin easily.
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Enough power, no danger for motherboard. No external PSU needed.

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Christopher Dobrian wrote:
Thanks for the response! Yes, it's a 5x70 video card, a 5770 I believe. In any case, it does have the three ports, but (a not-well documented fact) that doesn't mean one can really get three full-resolution signals out of it at one time, as you alluded to in your message. So, yes, we did try hooking all three up directly to the computer, but the computer would only recognize two of those monitors, and the only way to get it to "de-recognize" the second monitor and recognize the third monitor was to physically disconnect the second monitor.
I did say when you want to connect three monitors to 5x70's there are some rules to adhere to. These are covered in the first two apple docs mentioned above, or by title:
Mac Pro (Mid 2010), Mac Pro (Early 2009): Issues with three displays and multiple DVI, HDMI connections
Mac Pro (Early 2009), Mac Pro (Mid 2010): Supported display configurations
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Here's a good explanation of what's going in here and why you need two active adapters on these cards:
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I'm not doubtful. It is a very powerful utility for dealing with all aspects of multiple monitor configurations (they call them "Display Sets") complete with forcing EDID information if necessary. The different configurations can be controlled with a (contextual) menu and/or hot key.
SwitchResX is academic at this point if you want to have all three monitors connected. You would need to get that working first. Then use SwitchResX to vary the configuration combinations. So if you go this route the "name of the game" is figure out the active adapters you need.
I only described in general terms above about the adapters since you never said exactly what kind of connections these monitors require (single link DVI, dual link DVI, hdmi, mini-displayport, vga).

System-wide freeze when Time Machine begins back up - Mac Pro 10.7.5

I have recently upgraded my MacPro Intel Early 2008 to Lion 10.7.5 on an external drive. Overall this nice fresh install has been working very well. The problem is that every 2 hours Time Machine starts its automatic back up and then ...
A) Music playing on Spotify stops
B) Curser freezes
C) Application switching freezes
D) Current app stops working
This freeze typically lasts about 15 to 30 seconds, or until the small incremental back up is finished.
I have verified the cause using the Console and reading the activity. I read the log 4 times yesterday (it has been doing this since I upgraded a week ago) to confirm this activity. Usually the log reports the begin and finish of the backup with no activity in between, but in the freeze I just had there was activity in the middle relating to Spotify. That most recent log is shown below. For the record, nearly all of the log activity is something to do with Spotify unless I am doing some other system level process.
I have studied other threads, but the symptoms don't really match those, or I don't have the same suspect apps installed. I have run Disk Utility and Disk Warrior on the Time Machine internal drive, and it appears ok. In energy settings the hard drive disks are NOT set to sleep when possible, but the computer will sleep after an hour of inactivity.
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Here is the last freeze (I truncated the IP addresses) ... and thanks, I appreciate your help. L
7/12/13 10:54:14.857 AM [0x0-0x1c01c].com.spotify.client: 14:54 I [audio_streamer.cpp:538
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7/12/13 10:59:11.619 AM [0x0-0x1c01c].com.spotify.client: 14:59 E [watchdog.cpp:171
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7/12/13 10:59:16.753 AM Firewall: Allow Spotify connecting from 184.17:65289 to port 64429 proto=6
7/12/13 10:59:16.764 AM Firewall: Allow Spotify connecting from 74.40.0:50925 to port 64429 proto=6
7/12/13 10:59:16.765 AM Firewall: Allow Spotify connecting from 68.41:58285 to port 64429 proto=6
7/12/13 10:59:16.766 AM Firewall: Allow Spotify connecting from 216.23.:1526 to port 64429 proto=6
7/12/13 10:59:16.807 AM Firewall: Allow Spotify connecting from 108.2:59770 to port 64429 proto=6
7/12/13 10:59:16.959 AM Firewall: Allow Spotify connecting from 64.203:62864 to port 64429 proto=6
7/12/13 10:59:16.967 AM Firewall: Allow Spotify connecting from 12.1747:3148 to port 64429 proto=6
7/12/13 10:59:16.986 AM Firewall: Allow Spotify connecting from 76.97.:52319 to port 64429 proto=6
7/12/13 10:59:16.997 AM Firewall: Allow Spotify connecting from 70.114:60921 to port 64429 proto=6
7/12/13 10:59:17.020 AM Firewall: Allow Spotify connecting from 66.214:62861 to port 64429 proto=6
7/12/13 10:59:46.808 AM [0x0-0x1c01c].com.spotify.client: 14:59 I [audio_streamer.cpp:538
] 64k-Latency: 2 ms. Play latency: 31 ms (ap)
7/12/13 11:00:03.592 AM [0x0-0x13013].com.stclairsoft.DefaultFolderX.helper: DFX: Finder query returned error -1701
7/12/13 11:00:12.784 AM Firewall: Allow Spotify connecting from 76.14.156.134:55682 to port 64429 proto=6
7/12/13 11:00:32.831 AM [0x0-0x3a03a].org.mozilla.firefox: NOTE: child process received `Goodbye', closing down
7/12/13 11:00:58.261 AM com.apple.backupd: Copied 2527 files (130.0 MB) from volume OSX Upgrades HD.
7/12/13 11:00:58.779 AM com.apple.backupd: 5.85 GB required (including padding), 99.46 GB available
7/12/13 11:01:04.028 AM com.apple.backupd: Copied 1265 files (2.3 MB) from volume OSX Upgrades HD.
7/12/13 11:01:05.428 AM mds: (Error) Volume: Could not find requested backup type:2 for volume
7/12/13 11:01:05.429 AM com.apple.backupd: Starting post-backup thinning
7/12/13 11:01:05.429 AM com.apple.backupd: No post-back up thinning needed: no expired backups exist
7/12/13 11:01:05.771 AM com.apple.backupd: Backup completed successfully.

Hi Hatter - thanks for the info, interesting. When making these upgrades, which I resisted for as long as possible, I needed to make it as quick and painless, with "minimal" disruption in my work. It still took three weeks to plan and execute, plus it has been a week of fiddling - that is a lot of time to devote to computer maintenance. I kept the original system as a back-up in case things really went south. Also I need 10.5 because I have several active legacy client web sites in GoLive CS2, which I tried in 10.6, but it did not run well.
I agree that doing things off the internal drives is faster to operate, but my approach was prudent. Later I can swap those around. My external 10.7 drive is a WD My Passport Studio, and has had no problems (except the sucker runs pretty hot). I considered the SSD but the price is still high: NewEgg, internal 500GB regular drive today is $60 - 75, 500GB SSD is $340-370. That is a pretty big difference in a small business. I am maxed out on RAM, so that helps a lot.
One last thing though, for the Adobe Creative Suite the scratch discs are the internal drives, so it still runs fast in that sense. Fast is relative ya know, I remember programs taking 40 and 50 seconds to launch, now Photoshop is 19, barely time to drink some coffee.
I have bought a number of UPS over the years, including replacement batteries. It has been expensive frustration, because in a real emergency they seldom do what they promise. In Colorado there are big thunderstorms every summer, and I field tested them a number of times - but was never happy with the protection. Dollar for dollar, investing in a whole house (or whole office) surge arrester at the main utility panel offers protection for the equipment, with about the same amount of time to save your work (which in reality is about 1 second).
I had a ton of connection issues with Spotify working in 10.5, but I am happy to say those have completely gone away with this upgrade. I also like many of the refinements in Lion, such as the improved System Profiler.
Linc, I will will take a look at your suggestion, it is a little vaque. Am I looking for a perticular result ? I don't want to operate for too long with the firewall off.
I think my first step is getting the Time Machine figured out, that could be the whole issue.
Thanks guys for the input -- it is appreciated. L

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