Switching from Final Cut Pro to Adobe Premiere

Hi everyone,
Hopefully there are others here who have made this switch and can offer me thoughts and advice. I have for the past few years used the Final Cut Pro suite as my video authoring media. It's done a great job editing and compressing my videos, so I could burn them to DVD, but the time has come for me to start burning to blu-ray. The problem is, DVD Studio Pro does not support blu-ray (something I discovered after buying the burner, etc).
After some research, it seems that Adobe Encore is the only software I've found that people recommend for blu-ray authoring on the iMac. Is this true? If I buy Adobe Premiere, will it edit, compress, does it have a color program - basically, will it do everything I've been using Final Cut for, or will I need to move files between the two programs (if they even support this?)
Anyone with experience in using both programs or just making the switch, please comment with any advice. I'd appreciate it before I take the plunge on another expensive suite of software.

You can download a trial version. I tried it some time ago and I can only use one word "boring" sorry I can not explain this feeling in a more concrete way.

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dorian86 wrote:
I am just wondering about your experience with final cut pro and adobe premiere and which you like better and why.
I've posted this in other threads here: I've tried the Final Cut Pro X 30 day trial on my old Mac Pro 5,1 (heavily modified) and my new Mac Pro 6,1 (8-core, D700s). I have a specific benchmark that I run on an NLE when I'm testing it: how long does it take to export one of my movies to a 720p h.264 MP4?
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I just bought my first Apple computer and I'm loving it. I have worked with Final Cut Pro in the past and I really enjoy working with it. However, $1000 is a bit steep. I would like to ask what your opinions are on maybe getting Final Cut Express or Adobe Premiere Pro.
I have the trial of Adobe Premiere right now, but whenever I place a clip into the timeline, it needs to be rendered. This was never an issue with Final Cut on the computers at my school. I was wondering if you knew if Final Cut Express would have better rendering times and wouldnt need as much rendering. Also, it may be the graphics card in my computer. If you think this is the problem, can you provide me with a solid video/graphics card that I should look into?
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Stay the heck away from Adobe Premiere. It is no where nearly as Mac friendly and for the price, just isn't worth it. I purchased it for the Blu-ray authoring capabilities of Encore, so that's all I use it for. The plus to Premiere is that it can edit some native formats that Final Cut Pro cannot. For example, native AVCHD as well as MPEG-2 in program streams. That being said, Encore is the best option for Blu-ray authoring at a reasonable cost that gives you the ability to modify menus, etc.
Final Cut Express is a great application - my only reason for having final cut pro was my need to edit footage at 23.98, 29.97, and 59.94 fps. FCE only handles 29.97 (and 25 fps). Final Cut Pro also gives you the ability to edit more footage natively. FCE only supports DV, HDV, and AVCHD, with the latter two being transcoded into Apple Intermediate Codec for editing. FCP supports a myriad of formats and allows native editing in HDV - although it still transcodes AVCHD. FCP also gives you access to the ProRes set of codecs which are significant improvements on Apple Intermediate Codec that offer high quality in transcoding and editing.
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> Hi,
>
> I was wondering if there was such a program that would
export 'flv' files straight from Final Cut Pro time line for
my mac. I know that you can purchase Adobe Flash which
enables this, however I don't wish to buy the whole program. Is
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