Switching from ProTools to LogicPro - some frustrations

I am a long time ProTools user, and I have sold my ProToolsHD2 rig and switched to LogicPro7.2 and RME Fireface 400. It seems like a great setup (for a fraction of what ProToolsHD costs), but I have a few questions or problems:
1. When I drag audio files to a track and later drag these files (adjust where they start on the timeline), I always get audio clicks or noise when I go into playback. The noise will vary from time to time, and sometimes it's gone. This sounds like an audio buffer problem or something. It would be nice to hear from you experienced users.
2. Is there a way to setup LogicPro so that when I click on the spacebar, the playback stops - and when I click the space bar again, it continues from the very same point it was stopped?
3. I sometimes experience strange or unreliable behaviour of the automation curves. When I drag (reposition) audio regions with automation, sometimes the automation in the start and/or end of the region, will get a different value than it had before. It looks like LogicPro is not able to set the correct value on the start and end point of the region when the region is dragged to a different position on the timeline. (This used to be a problem with ProTools in version 5 or something.)
4. LogicPro looks like an old application to me. It is very computer'ish with all it's windows and menus. It's still so visible that it wasn't developed by Apple... I wonder if Apple will redesign it or just let it live as long as possible with the old user interface, in order to satisy all the old users that don't want anything to be changed...?
Helge K.
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Badicker,
Thanks for offering your very level-headed perspective on PT and Logic. They are different, which means that their usefulness in certain applications might be limited when comparing one to the other.
I'm sure that to a great extent forums reflect people's opinions just as they do in "real-time life", but for some reason, when people post on these forums seeking to compare one system with another, they don't actually ask for comparison; the premise of so many of these kinds of posts reads as:
"Which is better, PT or Logic?"
As a result, such questions tend to polarize people, factions develop, and arguments ensue. I cannot understand why one has to be seen as "better" than another, or, why the next version of Logic needs to be a "ProTools killer".
I don't work on PT that often, but for the last two sessions I did outside of my studio we worked not only in PT, but did so without doing much actual sequencing. I played live. LIVE! They were both dance music sessions and so my bass lines were massaged a bit with beat detective so that they locked in machine-like fashion with the kick. We did a little MIDI sequencing/editing of a particularly difficult arpeggiator-like part, and I found the MIDI editing in PT to be cumbersome (even when operated by a highly skilled PT engineer). Were I to be using Logic I would have edited the part in about 10 seconds and been done.
On the flip side, the audio editing was beautiful and lightning fast.
Anyway, I kinda wish more people would adapt your kind of level-headed thinking about differences between systems.

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