Sych drift using edit to tape

FCP is running perfectly in all areas except for edit to tape.
This is a new issue since upgrading to 5.1x and I've been using FCP since version 1. Audio drifts about a frame per second from the assemble edit point and i cant figure it out. Either the sound is dragging out by a frame per second or the pic is going down faster than 25 fps.
Is there a preference or setting that I'm supposed to alter?

That is a BIG offset. Typically mine run from 20 frames to 9 frames. Figuring out just WHAT the offset is tricky. If you have it figured out, and it is ALWAYS that same amount...then that is good.
Another freaking oddness with FCP. I don't have this issue when outputting to Digibeta...only HDCAM. WOnder if it is a deck/NLE communication issue.
Shane

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Hi - I'm not sure if this info will be of any use to you, but -
When using firewire to send video/control/edit to a DV deck your options are pretty limited.
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!http://www.spotsbeforeyoureyes.com/BlackCodeButton.jpg!
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!http://www.spotsbeforeyoureyes.com/BlackCodeDialog.jpg!
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*MAC PRO-*
Quad Core Intel Xeon Processor
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2 Processors
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Memory-8GB
Bus Speed 1.33 Ghz
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*AJA KONA 3 Ver. 5.1*
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*Panasonic DVCPRO HD AJ-HD1200A*
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