Symbols/WinXP Common Library files in Fireworks CS3

I went into Common Library and into the WinXP to pick a few
symbols of a textfield and buttons, because I was going to layout a
design with form. But when I double click on it and edit the symbol
and make it change and click "done" it wont update the one on the
page. And besides I shouldnt have to edit the instance only a copy
of it. I'm sure symbols work like they do in Flash, so it wouldnt
be a good idea to edit the master anyway, even though its
associated with my PNG file. But even when I edit it, it wont show
the changes.

Fr0ntier wrote:
> I went into Common Library and into the WinXP to pick a
few symbols of a
> textfield and buttons, because I was going to layout a
design with form. But
> when I double click on it and edit the symbol and make
it change and click
> "done" it wont update the one on the page. And besides I
shouldnt have to edit
> the instance only a copy of it. I'm sure symbols work
like they do in Flash, so
> it wouldnt be a good idea to edit the master anyway,
even though its associated
> with my PNG file. But even when I edit it, it wont show
the changes.
>
What are you trying to edit? Most of the editing is done via
the Symbol
Properties panel. If you are trying to scale it, you do not
need to
double click, just use the Transform tool.
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