Sync metadata from jpeg to raw

Hi, I'm using an Eye-fi Pro X2 card in my D5100. At present Eye-Fi haven't been able to resolve the fact that geodata isn't added to the Raw (nef) file so I am shooting in Raw+jpeg. Is there a way to sync the metadata from the jpeg to the nef file within LR4? Will this be written to the raw file, to a sidecar file or the LR database?

1. Select either an individual Raw + Jpeg pair or the pairs taken at the same location
2. Switch to the Map Module
3. In the Map Module you should see a Location icon showing the number of files that are tagged
4. Click on Map/Untagged
5. Drag and drop the files on to the Location icon to add that tag to the untagged files

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Trying to make the jump from JPEG to RAW...

Hi all, I'm trying to make the jump from JPEG to RAW, and am hoping you might be able to help with a few questions.
When I open JPEGs in Lightroom's Develop module, the settings are mostly zero by default. But when I open RAW files, some of the settings seem to have non-zero default to values.
Am I correct to think these settings are from metadata saved into the RAW file when I took the picture? eg, the camera saves the White Balance settings as metadata within the RAW file, even though the White Balance settings don't actually affect the image data itself. And so when I open that RAW file in Lightroom, it'll apply the White Balance as recorded within the file, making that a non-zero default.
Is that about right?
Does Lightroom similarly 'pre-set' other values when importing RAW files? (I ask because I seem to have non-zero settings for Blacks, Sharpening, as well as the Color slider under Noise Reduction.)
Meaning: I'm not quite sure "how much work" Lightroom is doing by default when I import RAW files, and how much I need to do to at least reproduce what my camera would do in making a JPEG.
For example, even though Color under Noise Reduction is given a value -- Luminance, also under under Noise Reduction, is left at zero. And the picture looks a bit grainy. Would my camera have processed some Luminance Noise Reduction? If so, is there a way to get Lightroom to help get that pre-set too?
Basically, is there a rule of thumb for how a novice should import a RAW file and have it reasonably "at least as good" as what the JPEG would have been?
Thanks very kindly, -Scott

Given that the camera ships with so many special effect presets -- is there no built-in preset that could be named "Auto Camera" so to speak? Or might it be possible import such a preset that somebody else has made?
Lightroom, nor any other third party raw processing program will not read the camera settings beyond simple stuff such as white balance. So you cannot do this. If you go raw, you really have to change your mindset and completely ignore the in-camera jpeg styles. Just set it to a neutral style and learn what the preview on the camera means for the actual raw data. You will find that this gives you orders of magnitude more creative freedom afterwards as you will not be stuck with a burned in interpretation.
So (for me) even just making my own presets -- let alone making separate presets for every ISO -- all that seems a bit daunting.
There really is no need to at all. I don't use presets for example. I think they are a waste of time as it is extremely rare that two images need exactly the same treatment. You really are just choosing a different starting point. I start all my raw at a relatively neutral setting (but using a camera profile generated from a colorchecker!) and blast through a shoot very quickly. You'll learn how to recognize what modifications to the Develop settings images need and just do it. Then typically I use auto-sync or manual sync to modify similar shots (say a series of head shots taken shortly after each other). I work differently as most of my photography is landscape, but a typical workflow for many photographers that do more people/style/event stuff is to import all the raw and start culling them with pick/reject flags and refine collection. You'll arrive at a subset that is worth looking at more closely and to finetune their development. The conservative default rendering helps you here because you'll quickly see what images are simply badly exposed, not in correct focus, etc. and you can reject them.
Think of your raw as the unprinted negative. It represents a nascent image. One that still has to form completely. A jpeg is like a polaroid. The image style is pretty much chosen for you by the film maker. There is very little you can do to it afterwards without it breaking down. Raw gives you much more freedom but it does come with a learning curve and it is more tasking for your equipment. Many people including many pros are simply not interested (or don't see the pay off) in this part of the creative photographic process and just shoot jpeg, which is a fine approach (just not mine). Lightroom can help you there too to quickly find the best images in a series, keyword, caption, and disseminate.

Howto Extract Exif GPS Metadata from JPEG?

Hi,
i want to extract GPS Metadata from a JPEG.
The JPEG is a photo taken with an HP iPAQ hw6900 PDA.
Serveral application like exif-o-matic can extract the GPS latitude/longitude metadata.
As described in the Oracle interMedia/Multimedia Userguide "Chapter 6 - Working with Metadata" i use a pl/sql procedure to extract these metadata.
http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/B28359_01/appdev.111/b28415/ch_metadata.htm#CIAEFDGH
I insert a row and extract the metadata but in the exif xml column there are no gps metadata only width/height and so on.
How do i extract these informations?

I got an XML document with no GPS metadata.
With "select p.image.getMetadata('exif') from photos p where id = xx;" i got sys.xmltype(sys.xmltype)
and with "select p.metaexif.extract('/').getStringVal() from photos p where id = xx;" I got an xml string like these
<exifMetadata xmlns="http://xmlns.oracle.com/ord/meta/exif" xsi:schemaLocation="http://xmlns.oracle.com/ord/meta/exif http://xmlns.oracle.com/ord/meta/exif" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance">
<TiffIfd>
<Model tag="272">hp iPAQ hw6900</Model>
</TiffIfd>
<ExifIfd tag="34665">
<ExifVersion tag="36864">0220</ExifVersion>
<LightSource tag="37384">unknown</LightSource>
<Flash tag="37385">
<Fired>No</Fired>
<Return>No strobe return function</Return>
<Mode>unknown</Mode>
<Function>Yes</Function>
<RedEyeReduction>No</RedEyeReduction>
</Flash>
<PixelXDimension tag="40962">1280</PixelXDimension>
<PixelYDimension tag="40963">1024</PixelYDimension>
<DateTimeOriginal tag="36867">2008-05-28T15:02:36.000000</DateTimeOriginal>
</ExifIfd>
</exifMetadata>
In the oracle xml shemata specification exists a gps section but in my example there is no gps metadata
You can find the jpg at http://public.tfh-berlin.de/~s21656/HPIM0014.jpg
thanks in advance
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Steffen

How to apply white balance from jpeg to raw version

I always shoot in RAW + jpeg format. Many times the jpeg will work fine and I still have the RAW if I want to take the time to tweak things a bit more.
But sometimes the jpeg stumbles on a white balance that works well for a particular image. If I want to apply that same balance to the RAW version, I would like to be able to read what that color balance setting (in K degrees I assume) is so I can copy it.
Is there a way to find that info somewhere? The exif will only give you the name of the setting (Flash, Auto, Cloudy, whatever...) but not the numerical info needed to apply it in Aperture's White balance adjustment.
I use a Nikon D600.
Thanks very much for any info!
Bo

OK, progress!
I found out from Iliah Borg on the dpreview.com forum that the utility ExifTool (or its GUI version pyExifToolGUI) will provide the R, B, G1 and G2 values for the white balance setting. They are provided as multipliers or absolute vaules. Example:
WB RB Levels : 1.51953125 1.8515625 1 1
WB GRBG Levels : 256 389 474 256
Now does anyone know how you can enter these type of numberic values in Aperture? The standard White Balance brick does not have input fileds for these types.

Index of EXIF-metadata from jpeg files by TREX

Hello,
I have the following scenario:
We have a central fileserver with a lot of marketing pictures. Our marketing people are looking for a solution to search pictures by data stored in the EXIF-metadata of the jpeg-files.
So I like to integrate this fileserver as a repository in KM, set up an index and let TREX do the search (as of note 663630 TREX can search the EXIF-Data of JPEG-Files).
As goodie I want to give the marketing people the possibility to browse through the pictures in an image gallery. This gallery should be consisting of a query-based taxonomy where all the pictures are sorted by special EXIF-data (e.g. name of the photographer).
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Why TREX doesnt index the EXIF-metadata?
And how can I use the EXIF-data in an taxonomy?
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TREX SPS16 Patch 2
KMC SPS16 Patch 2
Greetings from Berlin, Germany
Jens

Greetings to Berlin,
when triggered by KM, TREX will only index metadata that is known to KM as KM propertis.
I do not know in detail and am not at all sure, but you could try to create custom properties in KM that are called exactly like your EXIF-metadata, set them to "indexable", not fill them with values on KM side and then try again.
You may want to try this for just one of the EXIF-metadata as a test.
Even if that works somehow, the maximum result is:
- Property name existent in KM
- Property thus searchable an classifiable
- BUT property values will not show up in KM, as they will remain known only to TREX
Regards, Karsten

Keeping original metadata from Photoshop CS Raw files on import to Lightroom 2.7

I've been importing old Raw photos that I had originally worked on in Adobe Photoshop CS (the original CS). I used the browser feature to edit my Raw files and add caption information. I am now using Lightroom 2.7 and upon import I am "loosing" all that original metadata. I kept all the XMP sidecar files beside the RAW files.. so what can I do to get Lightroom to recognize and use that original metadata?
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Forrest MacCormack

If there is a .xmp file with the same name in the same directory as the raw file, LR DOES take the XMP data into account on import.
Forres: Would you be able to upload a sample raw and xmp file to somewhere (i.e. www.yousendit.com) and post a link to it here?
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Image Document Service Connector: Can't retrieve metadata from jpeg image

I'm using SES 10.1.8.4 with the Image Document Service Connector.
I've entered some metadata IPTC in a buch of images (with picasa, for instance) and added a new file datasource combined with a new pipeline as explained in the Patch Set Readme (p7514463_101840_WINNT)
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Patrick.

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I had the same problem on my Nokia 6021. I installed my app through the Nokia PC Suite. And it showed all the devices, but it couldn't find any services on any of the devices. Which was strange because most devices have some standard services running. The problem was that after installing the app, the Nokia was still connected/paired with the PC. After deleting the pairing, services magically appeared.
I hope this solves your problem (more than six months after your post ;) ).

Getting metadata into jpeg files from RAW

I am transitioning to using RAW files more often. I add metadata, including GPS info, captions etc. Then invariably I need to get JPEGs to someone and have to go through the hassle of exporting the RAW as a JPEG with the metadata.
Is there a way I can get that metadata into the sorta sidecar JPEG file on my Mac without having to go through the export process?
I suppose I could designate the preference that on import the RAW and JPEG were treated as separate files; could I then just copy the metadata in? I haven't really worked with separate JPEG+RAW before. Would it happen automatically if I stacked them? Haven't really explored that.
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Is there a way I can get that metadata into the sorta sidecar JPEG file on my Mac without having to go through the export process?
Not in Lightroom. Maybe with ExifTool.
Then invariably I need to get JPEGs to someone and have to go through the hassle of exporting the RAW as a JPEG with the metadata.
Exporting is a hassle? Maybe Lightroom isn't the right program for you.
I suppose I could designate the preference that on import the RAW and JPEG were treated as separate files; could I then just copy the metadata in?
Yes, you could copy and paste (which in Lightroom is called "sync metadata"), but you would have to do it pair by pair, and then save the metadata to the files, and you still wouldn't get sidecar files.
Now, if you don't want the "sorta" sidecar files, if it will work for you to have the metadata written to the JPG files themselves (not sidecar files), then you can tell Lightroom to automatically write the metadata to the JPG files. But ... see my next comment
It just seems that every time I have decided to use the RAW invariably I need the JPEG and if I don't have LR available (say I'm working on someone else's computer but accessing my own files) I'm stuck.
Sorry, but exporting is really the only way to make edits and other metadata available to non-Lightroom programs. If you just want the metadata but not the edited photo, then have it written to the JPG files, but you won't be able to see your edits outside of Lightroom (or PSE or ACR or PS).

Is there a way to separate raw files from jpegs that are in one folder after downloading from camera when you shoot both together. I tried arrange or sort by kind but that does not work. It arranges all folders but not the files in the folder., Is there

Is there a way to separate raw files from jpegs that are in one folder after downloading from camera when you shoot both together. I tried arrange or sort by kind but that does not work. It arranges all folders but not the files in the folder., Is there a way to separate raw files from jpegs that are in one folder after downloading from camera when you shoot both together. I tried arrange or sort by kind but that does not work. It arranges all folders but not the files in the folder.

Bridge will do the job. View > Sort > ByType. Then you can choose a group of one type and put the files in a separate folder.

Exporting Metadata (caption information) from JPEGS to a comma separated value (CSV) file

Here is my dilemma. I am an archivist at an arts organization and we are in the process of digitizing many of our materials to post them on the web and make them available to internet users. One of the principle components of our collection is a large trove of photographs. We have been in the process of digitizing these images and embedding metadata (in the Caption/Description, Author/Photographer and Copyright fields) via PhotoShops File Info command.
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Batch delete the JPEG's from all my RAW/JPEG pairs?

What's the best way to batch delete the JPEG's from all my RAW+JPEG pairs?
I have a 88k image library many of which are RAW+JPEG pairs. I've got about 50GB's left on my 2TB internal hard drive and need to free up space. I'm combing through the years worth of data attempting to clean it all up but I thought dumping the JPEG's would be a quick and easy gain. Can anyone thing of a safe way to do this? Creating an album of all my pairs is easy enough but I can't find a "delete JPEG" option.
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www.rogersglobal.com

Again, another untested idea for you. You should try it with one image first and Please! make sure your library is backed up first.
Select the Photos group from the Library pane to show all photos in the browser.
Set your view to Browser only.
Clear any filters in the top right if they are set.
Click the Filter icon at the top right.
If it's not already there, add the rule for "File Type" using the popup menu.
Set the filter to show Filetype Is RAW+JPEG.
You are now looking at all of your RAW+JPEG pairs in your entire library.
Make sure all the images are set to RAW as Master.
Select all the photos (test just one first!) and File->Relocate Masters. Choose an external disk with enough room.
Once all the masters are moved out of the library to a new location (this could take awhile if you have many photos), Navigate to the new location of the masters and remove the JPEGs. Sort by filetype in the Finder to make it easier.
Back in Aperture, Select all the RAW+JPEG pairs in the filtered browser and choose File->Consolidate Masters. (Now that the JPEGs are gone, I don't know if Aperture will complain. That's why you should test this first on 1 image)
If this worked, you should now have only RAW masters in your library.
I repeat myself: I didn't test this. Please test on a fully backed up library on only 1 image first. Good luck.

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yes I am importing pairs raw+jpeg using the camera connection kit. for what I understood reading the entire discussion you suggested, the solution is, after saving the files elsewhere, to delete the photos, but ipad would erase only raw files, leaving the jpeg. but I tried with one photo, and after deleting it, the photo was gone entirely!..
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I installed cs5 last night, and I am trying to open just the raw files that I imported into iphoto, but cant seem to find a way to separate them. In ps, when I go to open them up, they all appear as if they are jpegs, even though they sit in pairs (jpeg and raw). Any help would be great! I am a new mac user, and I think I am in way over my head here. I didnt think this would be that tough, I usually adapt to software pretty well. thanks!!! Oh and any other links that you could recommend to me would be wonderful...seeing as though I am going to need the help!!!

There is an advanced option to send the raw file. Root through the preferences. You can also export (to the desktop, say) and set the kind to original.
To *find* your raw files you can use a smart album.
http://support.apple.com/kb/PH2417

Include Develop settings in metadata inside JPEG, TIFF, and PSD files ignored when unchecked

In the Catalog Settings under the Metadata tab, I have unchecked the option 'Include Develop settings in metadata inside JPEG, TIFF and PSD files'.
I then selected a JPEG photograph in the Library module and chose Metadata/Save Metatdata to File. I wanted to save the metadata that I had added (keywords, IPTC, rating, etc), but not the develop settings.
I then imported the jpeg back into another catalog. The metadata I had added was there as expected, but so are the develop settings. This I did not expect or want.
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Hello all,
I have investigated this problem further and now have the answer. It is not that the option "Include Develop settings in metadata inside JPEG, TIFF, and PSD files" is ignored, but it appears that the LR catalog is not properly updated when this option is turned off.
Here are steps to test and illustrate the problem:
1. Create a new folder and place a copy of an original jpeg image (original from camera) in the new folder. Make sure you keep the original safe and only work on copies.
2. Create a new catalog in Lightroom 2.3.
3. Import the jpeg image from the new folder.
4. Add some metadata (keywords, ratings, title, caption, IPTC data, etc).
5. Make some Develop adjustments to the image.
6. Open "Catalogue Settings" from the Edit menu and check (enable) the option "Include Develop settings in metadata inside JPEG, TIFF, and PSD files". Uncheck (disable) the "Automatically write changes into XMP" option.
7. Select "Save Metadata to File".
8. Delete the jpeg image from the Library module, then re-import it.
9. Copy the original image back to the new folder, replacing the updated jpeg (once again, the jpeg image now contains no metadata from Lightroom). At this stage, Lightroom fails to recognize that the metadata in the LR catalog doesn’t match the metadata content in the jpeg file. I would have though that it should.
10. Open "Catalogue Settings" from the Edit menu and uncheck (turn off) the option "Include Develop settings in metadata inside JPEG, TIFF, and PSD files".
11. Reset the Develop settings.
12. You now need to make a change to the metadata like increase or decrease the rating (otherwise LR won’t save any metadata to the jpeg file - LR is being too smart and thinks it’s already up to date, so does nothing when you do the next step).
12. Select "Save Metadata to File".
13. Delete the jpeg image from the Library module again, then re-import it again.
14. Look at the develop settings (that you specifically did not want saved within the jpeg file in step 10).
Although the Develop settings were Reset in step 11, you have ended up with the original Develop settings from step 5. It is true that LR has not saved the reset develop settings, but it also hasn’t removed the old develop settings that are still stored in the catalog. This must be considered a bug (oversight). Note that it has also saved an Import snapshot as well.
For the more technically minded (and the LR developers if you are listening), the field "xmp" in the table "Adobe_AdditionalMetadata" is not updated (old camera raw settings and snapshot settings are left behind) when the "Include Develop settings in metadata inside JPEG, TIFF, and PSD files" option is unchecked (disabled) and it seems that this is the data that is written to the jpeg file when you select "Save Metadata to File". Note that the state of "Automatically write changes into XMP" has not effect on this process - I tried it on and off.
Hope that this might be of some help to others one day.
Tony

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