Sync send in bpm and Exceptions raised

Hi,
I am using sync send step twice in ASYNC/SYNC bridge,once for database server and other one is for webserver.Wht kind of exceptions can occur for database connection failure and how i should catch in bpm.Please send me if any blogs are there.
Thanks
Best Regards,
Harleen Kaur Chadha

Generally Synch send is used to call your reciever system synchronously (ie You are sending request and response at the same instance).You have to create a synchronous abstract interface in Message Interfaces and select that interace in Synch send step. You have to provide Input and output parameters also......
Check this for EX:
/people/arpit.seth/blog/2005/06/27/rfc-scenario-using-bpm--starter-kit

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I got a existing BPM.
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You can do one thing. Use transaction SXI_CACHE. Select the integration process double click it. You can drill down It will juz show a graphical descrption of untill which step the BPM has executed.
RWB: Check once with message monitoring.
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Searched SDN a lot but in vain...
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i have soap(Sync) to File(Async) synario...Soap response can have like this "PI system received message"..
If the SOAP is mandatorily working in SYNC mode then the above solution wont work (SOAP --> XI --> SOAP)....this will be treated as two different calls for the SOAP and the solution would have worked for ASYNC flow.
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Hello Experts,
I have the following scenario which I have realized using a ccBPM in SAP PI 7.31.
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I have used a ccBPM to receive the nomination idoc from ECC, transform it to web service request and send it using a Sync Send step. In case an application fault occurs, the SOAP receiver channel shows the error as application fault and my Sync Send step does not receive the expected response. However, a SOAP message with envelope is received from the web service which leads to the BPM queue land in error 'Permanent error in BPE inbound processing'.
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Hello Bhavesh
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Sync send step in BPM fails and cant be resend XI

Hi Forum,
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Edited by: sri_rambo on Nov 27, 2009 8:06 AM

My problem is that BPM seems to not like executing a synchronous send from inside a block.
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/people/krishna.moorthyp/blog/2005/06/09/walkthrough-with-bpm - Walk through BPM
/people/siva.maranani/blog/2005/05/22/schedule-your-bpm - Schedule BPM
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Can a synchronous send step work with out an exception handler..??
im gettin my messages and combinin then n sendin via the sync send to call rfc , followeed by a send back to my server..
at this very stage it expects me to define a handler for the same for the sync send.
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