Synch problem - Server.app and Workgroup-Manager

Hello everybody,
I have been having troubles with this OS X Server from the very beginning - I even went through the hassle of a complete new installation - Server.app failed from the very begining.
I found something new today. Take the Network-Accounts or Groups (it is an Open Directory Master) and view them in Server.App and in Workgroup-Manager to compare entries. Every group in Workgroup-Manager is visible in Server.App as well - BUT - the members of a group (visible in WM) aren't showing up in the respective group if viewed at through Server.App?! What is going on here?

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    0 42168 servermgrd    -1 /private/var/servermgrd//servermgr_info.lock
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    0 42268 servermgrd    -1 /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/DiskImages.framework/Resources/English.lproj/ CWrappedDiskImage.stringsdict
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    0 42268 servermgrd    -1 /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/DiskImages.framework/Resources/English.lproj/ CEncryptedEncoding.stringsdict
    0 42268 servermgrd    -1 /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/DiskImages.framework/Resources/English.lproj/ CUDIFEncoding.stringsdict
    0 42268 servermgrd    -1 /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/DiskImages.framework/Resources/English.lproj/ CSegmentedNDIFEncoding.stringsdict
    0 42268 servermgrd    -1 /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/DiskImages.framework/Resources/English.lproj/ CSegmentedUDIFEncoding.stringsdict
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    0 42268 servermgrd    -1 /System/Library/Extensions/IOStorageFamily.kext/Contents/Resources/Base.lproj
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