Synching Multiclip Angle

I am editing a seven-camera shoot. Everything was perfect except that one of my shooters stopped recording about one second after the slate. I only found out when I went to load the video. (I want to moirderlize the guy for not speaking up when there was time to simply re-slate.)
Anyway, I am aware that you can hold down Control and Shift and then click and drag the angle I need to adjust. But that seems designed for correcting an angle that is off by a few frames.
So I have no in point for one of my angles when I create the multiclip. I know that I can drag and add the offending clip from the Browser and add it into the already created six-camera multiclip. Does anybody have adjustment suggestions that are quicker and more efficient for synching the one clip to the other six?

I'd simply create a 6 angle mclip and cut the first minute or so with those 6 good angles,
Then find a sync point (that falls within that first minute) for all 7 angles and create a 2nd mclip to begin on 'inpoint'.
Then locate where that 'inpoint' from the 1st mclip is and drop the second mclip next to it.
May take a few extra minutes, but should be relatively painless.
K

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Hi all,
I have the strangest thing happening. I have two 45 min clips used in a multiclip. I edited the whole thing switching and cutting between the two and whatnot. So, now when I go back to it, on certain clips one camera angle will be blacked out in the viewer only (when multiple angles are showing in the viewer).
Also, under the playhead sync drop down menu in the top center of the viewer window, the 2nd camera angle isn't available as an option. It only see's the first one.
I wonder if this is a bug? It is extremely annoying because I can no longer switch camera angles for those clips.
Anyone else have this happen?

hey Pete
theres another thread I think you may already have spotted
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=213768&tstart=0
... anyway, in case not, the gist seems to be that rendering (manually or because of auto-render) whilst still building an active multiclip edit causes some problems with the playback.
try toggling off/on track visibility so as to lose any renders on the sequence (or copy and paste your cut into a new sequence, or using the Tools > Render Manager... to delete your renders for the sequence etc etc)
hope it helps
Andy

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I've created a multiclip of two video angles and one sound source. When I click on the clip in the event browser, the angles show up properly in the angle viewer. But when I clip on the display at the top of the event browser, only one video angle shows up.
And when move the clip to the storyline for editing, it's also missing.
This is driving me crazy! I've already trashed the prefs. This has never happened before.
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/john

Good question:
Here's a screen grab of that angle sitting in the timeline by its lonesome. It just doesn't like to be part of a multiclip and I can't figure out why.

Pulse option while you drag a multiclip angle to overwrite

I´m reading the book fcp beyond the basics,the part which concern to multicam edit explain that you´ve got to pulse option while you drag the angle to the overwrite box.¿Why?.Which is the difference between drag with f10 or pulse option while put the angle in the overwrite box.
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I can tell english isn't your first language, so you might need to rephrase your question.
What is 'pulse' option ? pulse?

Multiclip re-synch

Hi, I'm using multiclip on a concert edit and just noticed after a battery change on the crane camera it's gone out of synch which is odd in itself as it's centrally timecoded.
I'm trying to re-synch that angle from the timeline but however I do it, it just re-sysnchs that particular cut at that point in time, then when that angle comes around again it's back out of synch.
Tried doing it to the master clip in the browser but the changes aren't reflected in the timeline cut. I've done this loads of times but something is going fundamentally wrong.
So how do I re-synch the whole angle in an edit already in the timeline?

Yeah it seems you can change the master multiclip in the browser and on the timeline PROVIDED you haven't made any edits. If you make edits then you only effect that angles cut for the duration it's live, then it's back out of synch.
So unless anyone has a solution, it's back to the timeline to adjust every angle from that camera...aaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
As useful as multiclip is, when it goes wrong, it goes wrong big style. (just try media managing a multiclip project and you'll see what I mean!)

Multiclip angles show black in angle viewer

All of a sudden my Multiclip angle viewer stopped showing angles. All I see are black frames. Everything else works, I can switch angles etc. Trashed the prefs, deleted renders and rebuilt thumbnails but the problem persists. I opened an old tutorial project from Ripple Training and the problem is there as well:
What maybe causing this?
I'm on FCP X 10.0.5 late 2011 MacBook Pro with 16 Gigs of RAM.

I have this problem too, but it's only on certain sections of the project. If I delete the render files, then I can see the clips properly in the angle viewer. But the next time I switch angles or blade the movie (it's not entirely clear or consistent what triggers it) then both the frames in the Angle Viewer go black.
Any thoughts? It's started recently, and I haven't tweaked anything I can think of.
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Multiclip synching via Time Line In Points?

I have read the manual and still have a question.
I have multiple camera angles on a single musical performance. I have no trouble synching up the clips the old-fashioned way using audio waveforms, but I'd like to be able to see all my angles at the same time for ease of cutting. That sounds cool.
These angles do not have synched time code. I have to use an In Point for synching up.
I took two angles, and clicked them from my browser into the viewer one at a time. I set rough in and out points and edited them to separate tracks on my timeline. I fine-tuned the synching in the time line. They are now synched clips, video and audio.
If I am in the viewer or timeline, my multiclip functions are greyed out in the drop-down menus. I assume I can only access the multiclip function from the browser. Having synched up in points in the timeline, how do I get these clips back into the browser so I can create synched multiclip angles out of them?
Thanks.
Paul S.

I just worked at it until I figured it out. Set the in points in the viewer based on your ear -- the same sound in both clips. It might not be exactly synched but it's close enough. Don't mess with timeline. Once clips have the synched in point, just create the multiclip.

FCP Multiclip fix

Hello all, I would like to know if there is a way to fix the sync of a multiclip for all the instances the clip appears in the sequence. Let me fully explain:
My editor has used my multi clips to string together a show. The particular shots were multiclipped together via timecode from two jam-synched cameras. Not noticing the matching action in the multi clip until after the sequence is strung out with the bad multiclip, it seemed fine. But now there is a definite skip in audio and video on this section (about 16 minutes). Is there a way to easily fix all the affiliated clips in the timeline by something as simple as control-shifting and making the master clip sync? (BTW that did not work!)
I don't what to have someone spend a few hours to fix this, and i am sure someone out there knows how to quickly do this. I am in FCP 6.0.2.
Thanks for your time, and help!

When my multiclip angles have continuity breaks, I have had success in assembling the pieces into a sequence, matching the sequence to the tape TC, exporting a reference movie and re-importing it as a continuous angle for my multiclip. I apply the reel name to the reference movie as well. If the tape has continuous TC, with sotps and starts in the recording, recapture would not work with this method, but it does get the gaps out of the multiclip angle.

Multiclip editing + Panasonic HVX200

Hello!
I'm having some trouble trying to create a multiclip out of a footage from a Panasonic HVX200 HD camera...
The thing is that the camera divides long clips into smaller ones... so to have the whole footage from a camera, i need to create a sequence and put all the small clips in the right order.
but, now that i have all the footage from a camera in a sequence, i can't create a multiclip angle with that sequence.. it seems final cut doesn't accept sequences as camera angles, only clips..
i already tried to export that sequence and create a new video file.. but i face two other problems.. i'm working 720p24... from export i get either a video file with Square Pixels (they were HD960x720 before that) or if I recompress the frames.. i get problems with sync.. it starts to lose the syncronization and eventually it comes back, and then loses agains (in every point where one of the "subclips" started on the original sequence)...
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Typically when no one answers, no one knows the solution. But since you won't take the silence as an answer...
I work with p2 footage quite a bit, but I never had the pleasure of multicam within FCP...so I don't have an answer for you. If you do happen to have a shoot where you intend on multiclipping several cameras, it would be wise to NOT start and stop the cameras at different times. Rather, start them all at once, slate the shots (hand clap works fine) and stop the cameras at the same time. Or constantly roll the camera and don't pause ANY OF THEM until all of them are ready to stop.
But that doesn't help you at all now. I just wanted to pop in and say "I have no idea" as you seemed to want SOME KIND of answer.
Shane

FCP multiclip

Hi all,
I am facing problem in FCP multiclip . Before making multiclip when I am puting color correction filter in two clip and then do switching the FCP quit on its own. But when I am not applying the filter and make the multiclip then do switching it become fine.
Please help .
regards
rishi

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Need some help with Multiclip

Hi All.
I have a scene that was shot to music playback. They recorded it with 2 cameras simultaneously. Only 1 camera was getting an audio feed, though. The other camera is completely silent. I originally found a sync point and was able to make a multiclip, I told the audio to always come from the A side even when I was using the B video. It worked.
They did the same thing 4 times (8 takes total), Of those 4 have audio and 4 are silent. There's obviously is no common sync point among all the clips.
I was able to make 4 separate multiclips though. But I want all 8 takes to be in 1 large multiclip. I tried setting an in point on the 4 separate multiclips and then telling FCP to make a new multiclip from those 4 multiclip sources. It seemed to understand what I want as I can see all 8 video tracks simultaneously in the viewer, but it doesn't honor the in points I have (so all the takes are way out of sync with each other). I figured maybe it was going back to the original master takes and using those in points.
I decided to manually do what I wanted FCP to do, and I would find 1 downbeat on each multiclip that I know is the same (like the first drum hit of the first chorus) and mark an in point on all 4 multiclips at the same point. I could that find frame back to the 8 original clips and add an inpoint on them. Finally, I would make a supermulticlip from all the 8 original master clips.
It hasn't been working. I have the multiclip in the viewer, But. when I select the angle and choose view>matchframe>multiclip angle it doesn't go to that frame. In fact it's not even close. I'm not sure how it is deciding where to go on the master clip, Shouldn't a matchframe>multiclip angle load the original source frame clip?
So, the 2 questions I have are: 1) How can I make a sync multiclip from multiclip sources?
and 2) How do I match frame a multiclip to it's original master clip?
Thanks much!
David

1. Use 'Create Multiclip Sequence', instead of just Create Multiclip.
2. With the angle active, just hit 'f'.
K

Removing Dead Audio Tracks in Multiclip

Question for FCP7.
I'm working with a concert sequence that has a lot of problems. The footage wasn't shot properly so TC was a mess, but none the less, after a lot of work, one of our editors was able to craft a sequence with a number of multiclips representing two, sometimes three cameras.
The trouble is, is looks like the sound was recorded onto different tracks for each camera. So a Stereo Mix on 1&2, the Lav on 3 but the boom on 5 for one camera, and the Stereo Mix on 1&2, Lav on 4 and the boom on 5 for the other. Sounds strange I know. So I've got 5 tracks of audio, with one dead track for each camera, but that dead source is on a different track for each camera in Final Cut.
When I try to strip it out for one camera in a multiclip, it also cuts the same track, which is a good source, for the other camera when I switch back.
This is hard to describe I know. Can you have an uneven amount of audio tracks in a multiclip? Can you cut one track from one source, and have it leave the tracks from the other intact?
Thanks a bunch.

It is possible (and pretty easy) to assign one audio track for the multiclip. I've found that if you want to use more than one track, it's easiest to mix in the other tracks after the cutting is completed.
The FCP6 User Manual (the last with an index...) says this:
     To switch only the video of the active multiclip angle in the Viewer:
     1 Double-click a multiclip in the Browser or Timeline to open it in the Viewer.
     2 Choose View > Multiclip Active Tracks > Video.
     You can also choose this option from the Playhead Sync pop-up menu in the Viewer.
     3 Click an angle to make it active.
     A blue outline highlights the active video angle.
which I find fairly unhelpful.
I learned a "bass ackward" way of easily setting the audio track that works great once you understand it.
1. Double-click a multiclip in the Browser or Timeline to open it in the Viewer.
2. Select a angle that contains the audio track you want to use. There should be both green and blue borders on this clip when selected. (if not, choose Video + Audio from the Playhead Sync (center) drop-down button.)
3. Using the Playhead Sync drop-down button (the center button above the angle array in Viewer), select Video and then cliuck on any other angle. At this point, there should be a green border on the angle you wish to use for audio and a blue border on the current video angle. From here on, as you cut the audio should stay on its angle while the video will be on whatever angle you have chosen.
I refer to this as "reverse Polish notation", (no flames please") a term that was used to describe the arithmetic system used on the H-P technical calculators. In essence, you set the video to indicate where you don't want the audio to be...
hope this helps

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Nesting is necessary in that particular workflow because FCP always defaults to the first frame of the image well source clip after you trim the head of the sequence clip. This causes a big problem if you don't nest or mux your left/right first because any edits you make to the front of the clip will cause a temporal disparity.
This is a unique problem with FCP. Motion or AE don't behave the same way and will respect edits as you make them and still maintain sync of the image well source. We are introducing external muxing tools at NAB that will help manage the clips better in FCP. In an ideal world we don't want to add external transcoding or muxing to an already complicated workflow but there are not many options.
Unfortunately no other angles besides the active multiclip angle are available to FxPlug plugins or multiclip would be the perfect way to sync 3D clips (left on angle 1, right on angle 2, etc) and simply apply the plugin on top. We mention these little issues to those on the FCP development team every time we see them so I'm crossing my fingers that solutions will be found in the future to make the whole workflow much simpler.

Multiclip Problem: Canvas Shows Angle w At a Different In Point than Viewer

Having trouble figuring out a multiclip puzzle.
I made 2 angle multiclip that contains two different shots of a single live performance shot by two different unsynched cameras. (I synched them up for the multiclip by choosing a common in point on both clips before I made them into a multiclip.)
For some reason, when I drop the multiclip into a sequence to edit it, the canvas displays one of the angles at a slightly different timepoint, and I can't figure out why. When I click on angle 1 in the viewer, the canvas mirrors it exactly. But when I click angle 2, for some reason, the canvas shows me that angle, but set to an entirely different frame. I found this so confusing that I actually trashed the multiclip and created a new one, (using the same clips set to the same inpoints.) But that didn't help. When I click on the angle 2 of this newly created multiclip, I still get a shot of that angle in my canvas that shows a different frame than the one I synched up in my multiclip.
Any idea what's going on here?
before I made the multiclip that were shot by different cameras. video of a live performance into a timeline so that can I cut back and forth between the two angles the two cameras into a single "live" edit the angles. If I click angle one in my viewer, the canvas mirrors this image, as it's supposed to. However, for some reason, when I click on angle 2, the canvas displays that angle, only at a different in point. Obviously, if I try to edit the multiclip this way

Don't think that would've worked, either, since slipping the master take did nada to the finished edit.
I finally gave up on trying to edit that sequence multiclip and simply did it the old fashioned time consuming way: I dropped both clips into a regualr timeline, synched them up, deleted the audio tracks for one of them, and then simply went through the sequence choosing which shot I wanted for a given moment and razor blade cutting the extraneous video segment(s) out. As a poor man's toggle, I turned the video on and off for the B-roll, which allowed me to compare the two video angles at the touch of a button. Not as elegant as true M/C editing, but, hey, I was able to complete the edit in a couple hours, versus the three days I'd just wasted trying to get the M/C to work.
For the record, I suspect the underlying problem may be related to the fact that the problematic angle--the one that wouldn't stay synched was originally shot at 29.97 and then conformed to match the 23.98 sequence. I have a hunch that FCP's m/c synch didn't like reading and habing to synch a clip that had been reduced from 29.97 to 23.98. Why that would be, I don't know. But it's the closest I've come to figuring out what might have caused the problem.
If anyone has anything to add, feel free. Otherwise, I'm just going to continue switching angles for the rest of this project using the cumbersome method described above, which at least has the virtue of being WYSIWYG!
Thanks!

Multiclip on FCP 7 with timecode: multiple files for the same camera have different Angle

I have FCStudio 7 with OS 10.6.8
I just filmed a concert with 6 cameras (Sony XDCAM). They are all timecode sync'd.
For various reasons there are multiple vid files for each camera (i.e. 172_003 thru 172_006 for camera 1).
I imported into FCP 7 using SonyXDCAM plug in with no problems. Each camera file group was given its camera number as the Reel Name (i.e. Camera 1) and that camera's number as its Angle Name (i.e. 1).
Now when I try and create a multiclip using all six cameras, instead of keeping all the files for a specific camera under a single angle name it treats each file as its own camera angle. It treats each file as an individual camera instead of having the files flow as a single clip from a single camera based on their timecode. In viewer I have 8 different angles for a single camera (because of 8 files). In the make media window for multiclip, the Angle Name is different for each clip but its position is still aligned to its timecode.
I worked the same project last year and the multiple files for each camera lined up fine, based on its timecode value and camera/reel name. I can't see what has changed.
I need each camera's files to sync under that camera Angle Name, and for the files to play in the same angle spot in viewer.
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Well why not just prebuild each angle in its own sequence with sequence timecode matching the source timecode? Export with current settings and import these files back into fcp and then create your multiclip.

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