Synching my Zen Micro: two glitc

I'm new both to posting on a forum and to MP3 players, so please be patient with me!
I'd like advice on two problems that even Creative's telephone and email support staff haven't been able to help me resolve...
a) Why, when I change the order of tracks in a playlist in Creative MediaSource Organiser on my PC, they don't reorder on the player when I sync it (from PC to player)
b) Why, when I've removed tracks on the fly using the Delete Track option on the player, the tracks are not deleted from the PC when I sync (from player to PC)
As I'm a bit of a novice, I'd really like to continue using Creative MediaSource Organiser for synching tasks, if possible, but I note that some people recommend Nomadsync. Would someone be able to explain simply how it works and whether I'd need to transfer tracks over from the Creative database to the Nomad database in order to use it's Would it sort out these two glitches? I'd just like to be able to sync freely without worrying that I was reloading deleted tracks or reorganising previously organised playlists!
Thanks in anticipation of some easy-to-understand assistance!

Thanks for that sppedy feedback. That's a really good idea -- I've just reset the player to Shuffle in Play Mode -- sorted! As for my other question, I guess I can avoid reloading all the irritating, unloved tracks that I deleted from my player by just selecting only the new album that I want to sync from PC to player rather than do a 'sync all', can't I?Message Edited by GillW on 09-08-2006 03:08 AM

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