Synchronisation IPTC Metadatas and keywords

I have one catalogue with 13.ooo DNG pictures of my archive. In this catalogue I put 13.ooo JPG pictures with the same file name. Difference of cause .dng and .jpg As all JPG pictures contain all IPTC informations and keywords too, I want to import these informations to the DNG files. Up to now I click one jpg picture at the time, synchronize IPTC Datas with the corresponding dng. Then copy keywords and paste them into dng. A tool for synchronisation would be really great to optimize older archives. At least to put keywords into the synchronisation dialogue should not be difficult and would be a timesaver.

Sigurd den Haan:
Welcome to the iView Forum. Where are you importing from? Another application? Are you adding keywords in that other application? If not, then where?
No knowing the answers to those I will suggest that you do not use the auto-rotate in the camera. It has caused different problems in iPhoto, specifically the use of those images in other applications that do not read those auto-rotate tags.

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