Synchronizing Lightroom with Bridge Changes

I am having a problem with synchonization between Lightroom 2.4 and bridge (using Photoshop CS4, Camera Raw version 5.3.0.21).
I have lighroom preferences set as follows: unsaved metadata is checked for cell icons in grid view and automatically write changes into metadata is checked in catalog settings. Furthermore Camera Raw settings are set to save image settings in sidecar xmp files.
Here is the problem:
If I make a change in Lightroom the changes are automatically reflected in Bridge. However, if I then make a change in Bridge (Camera Raw) the changes are not recognized in Lightroom. In fact, the upward arrow on the Lighroom cell that indicates that metadata was changed externally does not appear automatically. Is there a refresh that is necessary? How would I know that a file has been changed externally? If I make a change to the file in question and then undo the change the update icon appears!!! but this is a strange way to find out that the file has been changed. Any suggestions? would much appreciate your input.
Thank you.

If I make a change in Lightroom the changes are automatically reflected in Bridge. However, if I then make a change in Bridge (Camera Raw) the changes are not recognized in Lightroom. In fact, the upward arrow on the Lighroom cell that indicates that metadata was changed externally does not appear automatically. Is there a refresh that is necessary? How would I know that a file has been changed externally? If I make a change to the file in question and then undo the change the update icon appears!!! but this is a strange way to find out that the file has been changed.
Lightroom doesn't continually monitor what goes on outside of the catalog and the method that it uses for periodically checking for external changes is a tad slow. The best way to ensure that Lr catalog accurately reflects any externally applied edits/metadata that has been applied to an image is to use the Synchronise Folder command. This command scans the folder looking for external changes and new images. You then have the option of reading the edits and changes back to the Lightroom catalog.
BTW: Upgrade to Camera Raw 5.4

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