Synchronous bpm scenario

Hi All,
I am doing scenario in which my sender ORION is webservice (It is synchronous to synchronous scenario)
I have to use bpm for this,
We are receiving webservice in XI and sending it to another PI system where i m doing soap look up (request,response mapping) and i m getting response in BPM and some transformation i have to do and send it back to the ORION.
Can you poeple please suggest me steps how to execute in BPM,I have tried doing it as a asynchronous request from ORION and sending ASYNCHRONOUS response.
Now requirement is changed they want us to do synchronously,
Wht will be the BPM scenario of this?In BPM we cant have sync receive,We can open sync async bridge but that also we cant use in this case
Please suggest me on this
Thanks
Best Regards,
Harleen Kaur Chadha

Hi,
Yes you can do it in BPM. You need to do the following steps.
Step 1.Receive step, receive request from ORION with mode as Open S/A bridge
Step 2. Send Step, mode as Synchronous, synchronous send to PI and gets the response back from PI.
Sep 3. Send Step, mode as Close S/A bridge , this will synchronously send the response back to ORION.
In between you can have your transformation steps for any mappings.
thanks
amit
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