Syncing clips from two cameras

This must be a fairly common thing, but I have been unable to find the answer I'm looking for, so maybe I have a terminology problem. But here is what I want to do...
I shot my wedding using two cameras one a Sony HVR-A1U on a tripod and the other a Sony PD-170 handheld by a friend of mine. I would like to put them both in the timeline and just cut back and forth between the two cameras. Is there an easy way to match the two, so I get clean edits? Also I'm going to use the audio from just the camera on the tripod as it's better.
I hope I explained that clearly.
Thanks in advance for your help.

You should've synched them to a clock or some such thing when you recorded the event, but it's too late for that. The best way to do what you want is multiclip editing-- which, (sorry for more bad news) is not a function of Express. You'll have to layer them on top of each other and sync them some other way, then just cut back and forth as you see fit.
As a sidenote, while FCP does have multiclip editing, I would not consider upgrading to it just for that. It is widely known as one of the weaker functions of FCP (at least as compared to other NLEs).

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Probably best if you could post screen shots of the Inspecror window in extended view with a couple of the clips you using for the 2 angles.
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Hi there and greetings everyone,
I'm new to the adobe forum, but I'm quite familiar with premiere pro and generally with filming and editing.
My question is simple, yet complicated:
I have 2x 5D mark III synched via timecode to the second and I have an event of about 30 minutes, where each camera recorded individual clips in an alternating way (so there are gaps between clips from the same camera, but almost 100% coverage with the 2 cameras together - we used this method for a more creative / interesting end result)
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- the only thing I managed was to select all the clips, create a multi-camera sequence and open that in a timeline format (everything is synced up, but each individual clip is on a different track, so I have 61 video layers basically instead of 2)
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- I know there is the Multi Camera Monitor, but that option is designe for editing and synching clips when there is 1 long clip / camera, and where you actually watch the entire recording and do the editing real time, which is not my case.
- Some sugested me to use plural eyes, but I don't see any point in using andio based synchronization if I have excelent timecode.
- I also need it done the way I described because for me it;s more manageble that way, I can edit it faster, and I already know what to look for, so it;s again nonesence to use the multicam feature.
The bottom line is that I am looking for something similar to pluraleyes (when you import everything in one timeline) and use the audio info to sync it, but in this case I would use the embeded timecode.
I've red a post where someone mentioned that in other editors its just select all / sync / done, so I can't believe it;s that complicated in Premiere.

There are currently better sync features in the works!
I know your frustration. For a similar and more in-depth discussion, see another thread I posted in here: Batch syncing audio and video using timecode
Unfortunately in CS6 (what I currently use) it creates a separate track for each clip, which can be a mess if you have hundreds of clips. The best way I have found to make things easier is to create a separate TC synced multi-cam sequence for each individual cameras footage. For example, I follow the same steps you did for each of my cameras footage independently so that I have a TC synced sequence for camera A, a TC sequence for camera B, etc. Then you can select all the footage of each sequence, nest it, and copy each nest into a master sequence to work with. What you end up with is a single clip for each camera. MUCH easier to work with! To keep track of where clips start and/or end in the nested sequences you can go into your original sequence and place a marker (shortcut "M") at each clip. These markers then show up in your Mastertimeline clips for reference.
I know things could be easier, but this is currently the best option I know of. I already put in a feature request and was told by the Engineering Manager of Premiere Pro that new sync features were in the works. (see thread link above)
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