Syncing problem - caught in an inescapable loop

I was going through getting podcasts off and on my iphone 5 via my mac with 10.6.8, iTunes 11.8.5 (I think, it scrolls by quickly).
As I was adding some podcasts I got a message that my phone couldn't sync because there wasn't enough memory on it (there's about 2GB, but it wants 4-ish). So, I figure, OK, I'll delete more podcasts from the phone and suddenly my entire list of podcasts is empty (on the list on iTunes that reflects what's on the phone - they are there on the phone and they are there in the list on iTunes that reflects what's on the computer). I spent some time deleting music - which is not reflected in the phone. I deleted some of a particular playlist and that IS reflected on the device list in iTunes. I went through and deleted all the photos on the phone that I didn't want (about 150 of them). Even deleted some podcasts by swiping and hitting delete.
Every time I go back to iTunes to try to then get rid of the stuff I'm trying to delete - in order to make more room - I get, first of all, a different amount of free space listed (sometimes more, sometimes less????) but the same message that it needs more space.
So, obviously, how do I get more space in order to make the sync without being able to sync because there isn't enough space? OR, how can I stop iTunes from trying to put the podcasts that I've asked it to put onto the phone so that there is less stuff to try to put on the phone?
I've turned on and off iTunes, I've unplugged and re-plugged the phone. I've turned off and turned on the phone, I've done a reset on the phone. I've turned off and on the computer. All to no avail.
Anyone have an idea on what to do?
Thank you! I depend on podcasts to keep me sane!!!

OK, never mind. I'm going to put this in in case anyone else gets this problem.
I sync my podcasts in the easy way - I drag and drop from the iTunes "library" to the "device" It's just the easist way.
So, I went back after posting this and clicked on my device and, in the bar across the top clicked "podcasts". I then discovered that if I turn off the blue boxes under the podcasts I have/want on my device it clears space. Ended out needing to clear a lot more space than the "I can't sync you" message told me. But, I've finally gotten it to sync.
Sheesh. I depend on Apple to make things easy. This was a major PIA.

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