System 10.4 et Powermac G5, la CATASTROPHE !

Je suis au bord de la crise de nerf ! je craque ! j'en peu plus
Depuis un mois que j'ai acheté mon powermac G5 je n'ai que des problèmes de paramétrages, de messages d'erreurs,
J'ai passé mon weekend a essayé de comprendre pourquoi certains jeux ou logiciels fonctionnent sous ma sessions et pas avec les autres utilisateurs
a essayé de paramétrer Ichat pour mon fils ! rien ne marche ! RAS LE BOL
Avant j'avais un Imac G3 avec 10.3 tout fonctionnait trés bien
Quand j'appelle le S.A.V mac tout ce qu'ils savent me dire c'est de réinstaller le système ! je ne vais quand même pas tout recommencer ? avec tous les logiciels que j'ai acheté depuis un mois
Je n'ai que des trucs bizarres ! ?
- Diablo tourne sur ma session pas sur les autres
- Ichat fonctionne bien sous ma
PowerMac G5 Mac OS X (10.4.3)

SUITE:
- Ichat fonctionne bien sous ma session mais avec les autres sessions il y a un message d'erreurs
- Mon scanner n'est plus reconnu alors que ce matin il fonctionnait correctement dans ma session (mais pas dans les autres)
J'ai redémarrer avec les extensions désactivées, l'icône du haut parleur a disparu du haut de l'écran et je n'avais plus de son
- plusieurs fois j'ai redémarré avec Pomme + S , pour faire un test avec la commande fsck, et la le disque dur s'est emballé comme un moteur d'avion !
Alors il est ou le support technique ? comment peut on écrire au support d'Apple

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IMac w/ iTunes7 no longer sees AirSpeakers - but PowerMac w/ iTunes8 is ok

After reading through about 15 pages of messages in this forum and the iTunes forums, I finally decided to post this since it seems to be unaddressed elsewhere. The problem is that AirSpeakers no longer shows as an option in iTunes on my iMac. The only thing about my system that changed was that my other computer started running iTunes 8.
My system consists of a G5 Power Mac, a G4 iMac, an AirPort Express hooked to the stereo, an Apple TV, also hooked to the stereo, and a Netgear router to network everything. The PowerMac and the iMac are cabled to the router for speed since I share files a lot between the two. iTunes on both computers showed the option of output to computer speakers, AirSpeakers or Apple TV. Both computers have music sharing turned on and that works. Both computers show up on the Apple TV and stream movies to it without a problem. So I was fairly confident that the network was set up and working fine.
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So, are there any thoughts on this issue? I really don't have a problem with iTunes 8, unless it has convinced my AX not to talk to iTunes 7. I've seen comments from people with worse problems than mine consider reverting to iTunes 7 after installing iTunes 8, but that seems like a lot of work, if this could be solved with a configuration adjustment somewhere. 'Where' seems to be the question.

Yes, this can happen. I've seen it on occasion. It happens more in some networks than others and is related to DHCP I belive. I don't know of a solution, but it's just cosmetic.
You can always change the computer name back and remove the (2) from the name.
The other settings are not related to this. Repairing permissions won't help either. This is a networking issue and related to your router and your network and Bonjour and some other things.

Quicksilver 2002 System Software

Is there any way to purchase original system disks for a Powermac G4 Quicksilver 2002? I can't find them anywhere, and the only way to install OS 9.2.2 on this machine is using those CDs.
Thanks

You have to order them from Apple. Here's their phone numbers.
Cheers!
DALE

Somebody Help!!!! I woke up this morning and my PowerMAc G4 appears......

to be dead....let me elaborate.
I was on the compujter last night, went to bed (leaving the computer on, as i often do)
and got up this morning and it was powered off. My first thought was there had been a power outage, but there were no other signs of this around the house. So i try to power it up..
i press the button on the tower and as i depress, it lights up, but as soon as i release it goes off...the light won't stay on, and there is no sign of start up...no fans, no hardrive hmm., nothin. I tried pulling the power cord from behine, just for the heck of it, replugged it in, and tried again and again and again, and nothing...
Could this be a power supply issue? Or a mother board issue? Can someone pls help...i have a mac authorized repair place near by, but i'd like to minimize expenses just on trouble shooting u know?
so any ideas from you experienced mac folk out there????
anything will be eternally appreciated...
desperate..

The first G4 models were basically a repackaged/upgraded G3 & came in 350 & 400MHz models. This design was called PCI version. The next G4 models were AGPs. This link http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g4/index-powermac-g4.html has the specs/pictures of all the G4 models.
Power Mac G4: How to Differentiate Between Models
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=58418
Power Mac G4: How to Differentiate Between Models (Part 2)
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=42739
Using these links, you should be able to determine which model you have.
Removing the battery causes all settings in the internal memory to be reset, just like resetting the PMU/CUDA. See Mac PRAM, NVRAM, CUDA/PMU & Battery Tutorial
 Cheers, Tom

Powermac G4 MDD Dual 867 vs Powermac G4 Single 1.0 FW800

Hello, I have been a mac user since 2004. I had an iMac G5 1.8 that crashed and I want a replacement for the next year until I can save for a Mac Pro. I saw a great deal for the above Powermac G4's: MDD Dual 867 for $200 and Single 1.0 FW800 for $150. My friend was going to give me his 23" Apple Cinema HD ADC. I will be doing email, internet, about 90% of the time, and sometimes use Photoshop and Lightroom the rest of the time. I will max out the RAM at 2.0Gb, upgrade the Video to 9700 or 9800, and install 10.5 Leopard. What do you guys think?

C24, welcome to Apple Discussions.
A great price for both. Several considerations. Here's a link to the specs on both. http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g4/index-powermac-g4.html
1. Are you currently using OS 9 in classic mode. If so, you can use either Mac in Tiger. (same as your G5).
2. Do you want to be able to boot into OS 9. Only the MDD will do this.
3. The MDD Dual might be slightly faster if you use multiple applications at the same time and if you do extensive graphics/audio.
Unless you want to boot into OS 9, I would choose the 1GHz. Note: If you upgrade to Leopard, you won't be able to use classic mode.
 Cheers, Tom

Identifying my PowerMac

I'm trying to identify a computer that I bought used a few years ago.
Here's what it says under the hardware section of the System Profiler:
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CPU Type: PowerPC G4 (2.6)
So is this a G3 or a G4? The case looks more like the pictures I've seen of G4s.
Thanks in advance for any input. Ultimately , what I'm trying to do is troubleshoot why this computer won't start up in Target Disk mode. I'd like to transfer files onto my new MacMini.
Thanks,
Greg
MacMini Mac OS X (10.4.6)

There's no ADB port and the sound ports are aligned horizontally. However while looking back there, I saw the words "Power Macintosh G4". Sorry I didn't notice that before. I was confused by the information in System Profiler.
After doing some more research and reading article #58583, it appears you're right and I do actually have one of those older G4s that won't start up in Target Disk mode.
I guess I'll research how to connect my computers via Ethernet or Firewire and IP.
Thanks for your help everyone.
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Installing OS 9 on PowerMac G4 without original disks

I wish to install Mac OS 9.2.2 on my PowerMac G4 that I recently bought second hand. It did not come with any discs. I have downloaded installation guides from the Apple support site.
I have loaded OS Tiger (10.4.11) using a retail DVD and software updates. Additional information is: Processor - 1.25Ghz dual; Memory - 2 GB; Graphics card - ATI Radeon 9000 Pro; Airport Card; PCI cards have been temporarily removed.
I have followed the instructions on the install disk and get the message:
“This program cannot run on your computer. See the documentation for more information.”
The documentation reads:
“Compatibility information
IMPORTANT
• Mac OS 9.2 supports Mac OS X compatible computers
You can install this version of Mac OS 9.2 on any of the following computers: Power Mac G4, Power Macintosh G3, PowerBook G4, PowerBook G3 (except the original PowerBook G3), iMac, and iBook.” [bold is mine].
The same statement is made on both Mac OS 9.2.2 install discs that I possess – one for eMac and one for PowerBook G4, both 2002 vintage.
I am aware of comments made by Don Archibald, Kenichi Watanabe and Grant Bennet-Alder that specifically contradict the preceding statement and, after my experience, I’m of the same opinion as them.
So . . . . . In the absence of a PowerMac G4 Mac OS 9 install disc, how does his plan sound?
I also have a Mac OS 9 retail disc and, thanks to insert_coin, from Barcelona I managed to find the updates to move from 9.0.4 to 9.2.2.
I create an OS 9.0.4 System on a disc and upgrade this to OS 9.2.2. I can probably do this with my PowerBook G4, which already runs Classic with OS 10.4.11. Another alternative is a PowerCenter Pro M180, but this involves either SCSI discs or large file transfer through the network.
I recollect from older OS that it was possible to custom install and select the machine that the OS was to be run on . . . but I’m probably dreaming about OS 6.0.3.
I then attach the disk to the PowerMac G4 and move the OS 9 System Folder to the PowerMac disk containing OS 10.4.11. Opening an OS 9 application (e.g. Control Panel) will, I hope, start Classic (provided the preferences are O.K.).

Hi, fencerjohn -
Welcome to Apple's Discussions.
Your plan is feasible, but there are some caveats.
• The install disks for OS 9 that you have, for versions 9.0.4 and both 9.2.2 disks, require that the machine be booted to OS 9. Although this usually means booted to the CD, that is not mandatory - as long as the machine is booted to OS 9 (such as from its hard drive), the installer program will probably work. However, if the version on the CD is too old to support the machine whose OS 9 is running the installer, the installer app will probably refuse to run.
• All default OS 9 installs (including upgrades using download updaters) are tailored to the machine which is running the installer. This means that an install performed on one model will probably not be able to boot a different machine.
There is a solution for this. All retail OS 9 Install CDs, and most OEM ones (the ones labelled Software Install, not the ones named Software Restore), have the ability to perform a Universal (boot any Mac) install of OS 9. Perform a universal install of OS 9.0.4, update it with universal installs of the needed updates, and it should work fine when transferred to the other machine, provided that the final version is one supported by that machine.
• The last sentence brings up a potential problem - that your G4 MDD 1.25GHz model will not be supported by the download update for OS 9.2.2. Apple KBase Article #HT1835 - Mac OS 8, 9: Compatibility With Macs indicates (via note "(3)") that this may be the case.
To do a universal install -
1) Boot the machine to the CD if necessary, then run the installer. Step through the pages in the installer (choosing the correct destination volume in the process) until you get to the "Install Software" page, the page with the "Start" button on it. Don't click that button.
2) Click the "Customize" button at the bottom left of the page.
3) On the new page, click the pulldown menu to the right of "Mac OS 9.x", and select "Customized Installation..." from the list offered.
4) On the next new page, at the top is another pulldown menu labelled "Selection:" - click that menu and select "Universal Installation".
5) OK that page, then click the "Start" button.
These instructions may apply to the OS 9.1 download update, do apply to the OS 9.2.1 download update, but do not apply to the OS 9.2.2 download update.
If all you need OS 9 for is to use it as Classic, then it need not be an install that is boot-compatible with your G4 MDD. If this is the case, then there is no need to do a Universal Install sequence for OS 9 and its updates.

Late 2004 powermac and multiple graphics cards?

Hey,
I have a late 2004 powermac g5 that currently has the fx5200 graphics card. i want to know if i used pci graphics cards could i run 6 displays off this machine? i know it can be done on the mac pro's but what about the g5. can i use the pci slots as graphics card slots or will i have to get a mac pro?
If i can use the pci slots what would be the best card to use? i know the output would not be the best but it is going to be running 6 acer v193w 19inch screens with vga.
Thanks in advance

Which 2004 model is it, they have different PCI slots & speeds...
http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g5/faq/powermac-g5-number-type-sp eed-pci-pci-x-pcie-slots.html

I'm guessing that my Powermac G5 Quad running 10.4.11 does support extended desktop. My present monitor is a 1600x1200. Can a second monitor of smaller size and lower resolution work as an extended desktop?

I'm guessing that my Powermac G5 Quad running 10.4.11 does support extended desktop. My present monitor is a 1600x1200. Can a second monitor of smaller size and lower resolution work as an extended desktop?

It should easily.
Power Mac G5: Display Compatibility
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2707?viewlocale=en_US
Display Support:
Dual Displays*
Resolution Support:
2560x1600
Details:
Apple advertised that this system can support "two Apple flat-panel displays for each graphics card installed". The default graphics card can support "up to 2560 by 1600 pixels" with the dual-link DVI port and "up to 1920 by 1200 pixels" with the single-link DVI port. It also can support analog resolutions "up to 2048 by 1536 pixels".
http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g5/stats/powermac_g5_quad_2.5.htm l
"Quad Core" (2.5)
Video Card:
GeForce 6600
VRAM:
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1 dual-link DVI
1 single-link DVI
http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g5/faq/powermac-g5-adc-ports-dvi- ports-resolutions-supported.html

System set-up with two drives (and one used as a boot drive)

Apologies if this has been asked before; I have searched a little for this info, but couldn't really find it.
I'm looking ahead to the glorious day when I eventually get my dream killer system, i.e. a Powermac (or whatever it's called when it goes Intel) with all the trimmings.
I like the idea of having something like a WD Raptor as a boot drive, with a large second drive mainly for storage plus the obligatory external FW drive for back-up.
I know from using Windows that a using a boot drive (or partition) with everything else on another volume is ok, but I had read/heard (perhaps incorrectly) that OS X likes/needs (particularly for iLife) to keep Apps in the Applications folder, music in the music folder etc.
So what would be the best way of achieving this type of set-up on the Mac?
Thanks in advance.

iTunes doesn't care where the music is stored. Just make sure it's NOT set to "Copy files to iTunes Music folder when adding to library" in the iTunes preferences (under the advanced tab.
iPhoto 5 and earlier is a bit more picky. iPhoto 6 has an option very similar to iTunes that allows you to store your music wherever you want, without it automatically copying to the iPhoto folder. If you get a new PowerMac, it will contain the latest version of iPhoto, so you don't have to worry about it.
I never use the other iLife apps, so I don't have an answer for those.

How much RAM can my computer support?

This computer has four memory slots but I don't want to buy memory that I don't need. Also I am currently running SDRAM-PC133-333, but most sites say that this model computer should run PC120, or 100, or something like that..........will I be ok running the PC133-333? Another question: my internal hard drive only has 20GB and I want to be able to run Logic Pro 8 smoothly what sort of hard drive upgrade should I go with?

smida7, welcome to Apple Discussions.
Since you mentioned PC100 RAM, you probably have an older Mac. Look at these G4 specs & tell us which one you have. http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g4/index-powermac-g4.html The older Macs came with PC100 (100MHz) RAM, but you can install PC133 RAM because it's backward compatible. That is, PC133 RAM will operate at PC100 speed. Your Mac can probably use up to 2GB of RAM (4 each 512MB modules) while booted in OS X, however, only 1.5GB may be recognized while booting MacOS 9.
On your hard drive question, look at these links.
What Macs natively support large IDE drives? (over 128GB formatted)
http://forums.xlr8yourmac.com/action.lasso?-database=faq.fp3& layout=FaqList&-response=answer.faq.lasso&-recordID=34188&-search
How Big a Hard Drive Can I Put in My iMac, eMac, or Power Mac?
http://lowendmac.com/macdan/05/1024.html
Using 128 GB or Larger ATA Hard Drives
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2544
The Power Mac Storage FAQ
http://forums.macnn.com/65/power-mac-and-mac-pro/246391/the-power-mac-storage-fa q/
Possible Alternative - SpeedTools ATA Hi-Cap Support Driver: Allows the use of extended capacity ATA drives (drives greater than 128 Gigabytes in size) on older (Pre Mirrored Door) G4 and G3 Macintoshes running MacOS X versions 10.2 and later. Cost $24.95
http://www.speedtools2.com/ATA6.html
Possible Alternative 2 - Larger than 128GB drives can be used by adding a PCI ATA/100 or ATA/133 controller card, one which is 48-bit LBA compliant; or by adding a PCI SATA controller card and using SATA drives.
If you install an external firewire HD, you are not limited in size.
 Cheers, Tom

Acrobat re-installs at the start-up every time I use the computer

Every time I start a computer Acrobat keeps re-installing.
First I get a message "Preparing to install" from the Windows installer.
Then I get a message "Please wait while Windows configures Adobe Acrobat".
And then I get a message "You must restart your system for the configuration changes made to Adobe Acrobat pro to take take effect. Click yes to re-start or No if you plan to re-start later."
If I click Yes, then after a re-start it all start from the beginning - I get a message "Preparing to install" again...
If I clink NO, I can use the Acrobat Pro, but this message is very annoying.... Also, it takes extra time before I can start using the computer...

Please back up your computer before starting any remedial action. System Restore is not sufficient for any catastrophic problems. First, I do not recommend the use of any 3rd party registry repair software. If you stick to using the original publisher's software to isolate and/or fix any problems you will generally be much better off.
In general, when you see the installer running right after trying to start an application, it means the installation is corrupted. Therefore, that's where I would begin troubleshooting.
After BACKING UP YOUR SYSTEM, I would try the following:
1. Uninstall the application.
2. Clear the Windows logs
3. Disable User Account Control
4. Disable any third party software which might be conflicting.
5. Reboot, if necessary, and then reinstall with Administrator privelages using the following procedure: http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/400/kb400682.html
6. Upload (attach) your log to your next post so other people and I can look at it.
7. Check your Windows Event Log for error messages related to the installation routine. Copy any installation error messages to your post.
I'll take a look at the resulting log for unusual events.

Won't load to desktop

Problem: Old power mac G4 won't boot to the desktop. By default it loads OS X. When it loads the apple and the spinning thing under the apple load. Then OS X begins to load with the status bar and message. Right after the message "waiting for network initialization" the desktop background and the cursor both appear, but no icons.
I have used disk utility and told it to boot up in OS 9.1 and it boots fine. Desktop icons show and everything.
I was told it could be a problem with the battery, refer to post: http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=4818372#4818372
If it were an issue with the battery, would OS 9.1 be able to load?
Could it be a problem with the computer recognizing OS X. or maybe an issue with the firmware? refer to: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=86117
I am not entirely sure that it is a G4 PCI because it has a 450MHz processor.
Power Mac G4 (PCI ?) Mac OS X (10.3.9) also has mac os 9.1

The G4 PCI versions came in 350 & 400MHz versions. So it's not a PCI. Possibly an AGP. Look at the G4 spec pages. http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g4/index-powermac-g4.html
Also look at : Power Mac G4: How to Differentiate Between Models
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=58418
Power Mac G4: How to Differentiate Between Models (Part 2)
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=42739
At startup, depress/hold the Option key. This will activate the Startup Manager. This will show you the available system startup options - OS 9, OS X, etc. Seems like it is set to startup from a network in OS X.
Once you determine what model Mac you have, boot up in OS 9 & go to the Apple System Profiler. Note the Boot ROM (firmware) version. Then check if your Mac requires a firmware (Boot ROM version) update. Mac OS X: Available firmware updates
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=86117 If an update is required, the update must be installed (using OS 9) BEFORE you install OS X.
 Cheers, Tom

Trying to reset administrator password by using the Mac OS X Install disc to reset but it won't allow me to without original administrator password. Frustrating.

Trying to reset administrator name/password by using the Mac OS X Install disc to reset but it won't allow me to without original administrator name/password. Frustrating. Reason I'm trying to reset is that it seems to be not recognising the administrator name as have changed password in System Preferences - Accounts.
PowerMac, Mac OS X (10.5.8)

Here's the instructions if you have the discs.
*Mac OS X: Changing or resetting an account password*
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1274?viewlocale=en_US
Changing your administrator password
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=Mac/10.4/en/mh655.html
Here's one method to reset the password without the install disc:
1. boot computer and hold the "apple" key and the "s" key.
2. wait for terminal show
3. release keys
4. type without the quotes: "/sbin/mount -uaw"
5. press enter
6. type without the quotes: "rm /var/db/.applesetupdone
7. press enter
8. type without the quotes: "reboot"
9. press enter
This will let you create a new admin account when you reboot your computer.
Also, without the discs, look at Mac OS X Tip - No Password, No Root, No CD? No Problem.
http://www.macobserver.com/tip/2003/06/16.1.shtml
Without the discs, try this (OS 10.5 only). *How to Reset User Password via single user mode*
http://macosx.com/forums/howto-faqs/300019-howto-reset-user-password-via-single- user-mode.html
Here is a way to get around not knowing the admin password on Macs.
To reset your OS X password without an OS X CD you need to enter terminal and create a new admin account:
   1. Reboot
   2. Hold apple + s down after you hear the chime.
   3. When you get text prompt enter in these terminal commands to create a brand new admin account (hitting return after each line):
          * mount -uw /
          * rm /var/db/.AppleSetupDone
          * shutdown -h now
   4. After rebooting you should have a brand new admin account. When you login as the new admin you can simply delete the old one and you’re good to go again!
 Cheers, Tom

I woke up this morning and my Bookmarks is working different. Has a setting changed, or did Apple change it for me and how do I get it back?????????

I woke up this morning and my bookmarks are functioning different, and the tool bar has changed. Instead of opening the bookmarks in a page on Safari, I get a menu on the side of the page. Then I have to go click on the bookmark icon again to get rid of the menu. Has a setting changed or did Apple change it for me and how do I get it BAAAAAAACK????????????

The first G4 models were basically a repackaged/upgraded G3 & came in 350 & 400MHz models. This design was called PCI version. The next G4 models were AGPs. This link http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g4/index-powermac-g4.html has the specs/pictures of all the G4 models.
Power Mac G4: How to Differentiate Between Models
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=58418
Power Mac G4: How to Differentiate Between Models (Part 2)
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=42739
Using these links, you should be able to determine which model you have.
Removing the battery causes all settings in the internal memory to be reset, just like resetting the PMU/CUDA. See Mac PRAM, NVRAM, CUDA/PMU & Battery Tutorial
 Cheers, Tom

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