System copy and database refresh

Can any one nagotiate me about system refresh and databaswe refresh.

Hi,
System Copy means copying the contents of the system into another including data i,.e Table Data. It comprises entire user settings, data will be copied.
In the database refresh, table contents (data) are refreshed.
Good thread discussion:
http://www.sap-img.com/bc049.htm
Re: client refresh procedure
Thanks,
Moorthy

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Difference between system copy and Remote Client copy?

Hi,
Can any body suggest me , What are the major difference between System copy and Remote Client Copy.
As per my knowledge , Both are different
1.In system copy entire data recovered mean copy from Source to target
2.In Remote client copy All Client data can't me import if you choose SAP_ALL profile also
I hope Transaction data and user data can't copied
Anybody share this Question and Give me some idea about this
If anybody give brief explanation that is very gratefull.
regards,
Balaram

Hi,
System copy will replicate all database from source to target system.
In remote copy only client in which you are performing the copy will get refresh. Also, remote client copy will be done between systems on same patch level. with SAP_ALL profile you can bring all data in target system including your transactional data.
Thanks
Sunny

Difference between r/3 refresh and database refresh

Dear guru's
what is the difference between system refresh and database refresh.........And what is the process of both....... please give me end to end nogotiate............
Regard's
rajkumar

Hi Raj,
Database refresh, I believe is one of the ways you could refresh your SAP systems.
E.g Oracle database specific refresh is one of the ways. In this, I think you would export, move and then import cold backup of the database.
Easiest way to get more information is to search for the System refresh (or System copy) master guide from Market place or help.sap.com.
Regards,
N.

What is the exact difference between Database Cloning and Database Refresh?

Hi,
Can anybody tel me the exact difference between Database Cloning and Database Refresh?
I Have some conflicts in these topics.
Thanks
Rajesh

Refresh is what it says, "refresh" . You have a main site which would always have the data being inserted into it. There would be another site which would remain some where else . This site needs to be refreshed with the primary site. So you need to do export from the primary, push it to the secondary site and done!
HTH
Aman....

Differene between system copy and system refresh

Hi all
can you please tell me the difference among SYSTEM COPY,SYSTEM REFRESH and DB REFRESH

I would consider them all the same. Maybe a "refresh" could be stated as "I restore a backup onto an already installed system" where as system copy means "I install a new system with a backup of another one" but mainly they all mean the same.
Markus

System copy post DB refresh error

Hi,
I am doing a post db refresh (Oracle/Solaris) and while creating control file getting error
SQL> CREATE CONTROLFILE SET DATABASE "XXX" RESETLOGS ARCHIVELOG;
CREATE CONTROLFILE SET DATABASE "XXX" RESETLOGS ARCHIVELOG
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-01503: CREATE CONTROLFILE failed
ORA-01565: error in identifying file '?/dbs/[email protected]'
ORA-27037: unable to obtain file status
SVR4 Error: 2: No such file or directory
Additional information: 3
ALSO
SQL> startup nomount
ORACLE instance started.
Total System Global Area 2214592512 bytes
Fixed Size                  2053640 bytes
Variable Size            1174407672 bytes
Database Buffers         1006632960 bytes
Redo Buffers               31498240 bytes
SQL> @control.sql
SP2-0310: unable to open file "control.sql"
Please help.

Hi Anshul,
First please refer System copy guide for successful procedure http://www.basisconsultant.com/j/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&layout=item&id=1&Itemid=185 .In addition please follow SAP Note 546006 - Problems with Oracle due to operating system errors
and try to execute SQL command create spfile from pfile ; ( ORA-01565: error in identifying file &#8216;?/dbs/[email protected] )
Regards,
Gaurav

RSA1 infosources under wrong SID after system copy and BDLS has run

Hi we are a BW3.5 SP#21 system on 10202 and hpux 11.23 (ia64). We have an R/3 system connected to the BW system for extracts. Extracts work fine in the productive environment. So 1 production BW system, and 1 production R/3 system. We also have sandbox copies of each made from database copies recently. The environment is as follows:
sid     client     current logical system name     original logical system name after "copy"     system role
BW1     100     FINPBW1100     --     Productive BW system
LH1     100     FINPLH1100     --     Productive R/3 system
LHU     100     FINPLHU100     FINPBW1100     sandbox BW system
LHI     100     FINPLHI100     FINPLH1100     sandbox R/3 system
LHU is a copy of BW1. LHI is a copy of LH1. There is only 1 working client in all systems.
We recently did the copies, creating the LHU/LHI systems. we've completed our "post refresh" checklist on LHU/LHI, including the BDLS work.
BDLS was ran as follows on LHU/100:
>> convert FINPBW1100  FINPLHU100
>> convert FINPLH1100  FINPLHI100
BDLS was ran as follows on LHI/100:
>> convert FINPBW1100  FINPLHU100
>> convert FINPLH1100  FINPLHI100
In RSA1 on sandbox LHU/100, in the "source system" area, the source systems to the sandbox R/3 system LHI/100 tests out ok if you do the check connection and the technical name for the sm59 it points to is correct.
If I check the RSA1 --> Infosources though, and search for LHI.it doesn't find all the "expected" infosources/infopackages.
If instead I search for LH1 it finds the whole list of "expected" infosources/infopackages. But the R/3 system i'm trying to do extracts from is called "LHI" not "LH1".
QUESTION:
does anyone know what needs to happen to convert what we see in RSA1 --> Infosources when searching for LH1 to infosources that we can use which point to LHI it looks like all the data is there in RSA1 -->infosources, it just is under the wrong sid.thanks in advance

Hi Ben,
Sorry to hear that my suggestion did not help. We will have to see what the other experts say!
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/bff13df2-0c01-0010-6ba7-bc50346a6fd8
That link is to the document that I followed when setting up a BWQ system new, and we didn't encounter the same problem that you are experiencing. We are also BW 3.5.
I started on Page 17 which is where Section 3.7 starts.
Hopefully that might help, although that may have been what you were following.
Nick

Db13 after system copy and oracle upgrade.

Dear support,
I have 40B system with Oracle 8.1.7.4 with SID as PRD. Now i have copied the same to TST system and i forgot to perform ops$ mechanism setup in TST system as part of post database refresh.
Now i have upgraded database to oracle 9.2.0.5 and since DB13 jobs are not getting executed i have done following settings,
New SID is TST.....
create user "OPS$TSTADM" identified by TST;
grant connect, resource, dba to "OPS$TSTADM";
CONNECT "OPS$TSTADM"
select * from dba_users where username like 'OPS%' ;
alter user "OPS$TSTADM" temporary tablespace PSAPTEMP ;
create table sapuser as select * from "OPS$prdADM".sapuser ;
select * from dba_tab_privs where table_name = 'SAPUSER' ;
create user "OPS$SAPSERVICETST" identified externally ;
grant select, insert, update on sapuser to "OPS$SAPSERVICETST" ;
create synonym "OPS$SAPSERVICETST".sapuser for "OPS$TSTADM".sapuser ;
grant sapdba to "OPS$TSTADM" ;
grant connect, resource, sapdba to "OPS$SAPSERVICETST";
alter user "OPS$TSTADM" identified externally ;
revoke dba from "OPS$TSTADM" ;
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still i am getting below error in DB13 , should i use BRtools instead of SAPDBA
please let me know
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Job started
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Execute log. command SAPDBA on host saptest
__Parameters: -u / -checkopt PSAP% -method E
SAPDBA: Wrong option.
Usage:
sapdba [ -u        <userid>[/<password>]
          -P        <userid>/<coded_password>    /* (only for batch start) */
       [ -p        <profile> ]
       [ -h[elp] ]
       [ -r        <dir>                        /* restart in batch       */
          -export   <tsp_list>     <table>
                    [-dest      <path>
                                <tape_device> [-tape_size <size_in_M>] ]
          -alter_user <uid>/<pwd>
          -init_sap_connect
          -sapsid <SID1>[,<SID2>,...]
          -version
          -verbose
          -V -VERSION [all]
sapdba without -u option would connect by
       (1) <name>/<password> in <orapwd_file>, if spec. in init<SID>.dba or
       (2) system/manager, if default password is set or
       (3) prompting for name and password.
External program terminated with exit code 2
SAPDBA returned error status E
Job finished
Best regards,
AjitR

Peter,
I have executed script with user sapsr3 user as below are tasks performed , please let me know whether i can go ahead and execute sapdba_role.sql and sapconn.sql
SQL> select username , account_status from dba_users;
USERNAME                       ACCOUNT_STATUS
OPS$CYSOFT52\EC6ADM            OPEN
OPS$CYSOFT52\SAPSERVICEEC6     OPEN
OPS$CYSOFT52\SAPSERVICESR3     OPEN
SYS                            OPEN
SYSTEM                         OPEN
SAPSR3                         OPEN
SAPSR3DB                       OPEN
OUTLN                          LOCKED
TSMSYS                         EXPIRED & LOCKED
DIP                            EXPIRED & LOCKED
DBSNMP                         EXPIRED & LOCKED
11 rows selected.
E:\oradbuser>sqlplus /nolog @oradbuser.sql SAPSR3
SQL*Plus: Release 10.2.0.2.0 - Production on Wed Aug 1 05:53:30 2007
Copyright (c) 1982, 2005, Oracle. All Rights Reserved.
Connected.
old   6:   if length('&&1') = 5 then
new   6:   if length('SAPSR3') = 5 then
old   7:     if substr(upper('&&1'),1,5) = 'SAPR3' then
new   7:     if substr(upper('SAPSR3'),1,5) = 'SAPR3' then
Enter value for 2: SAPSR3
old 11:       if upper('&&2') = 'NT' then
new 11:       if upper('SAPSR3') = 'NT' then
Enter value for 3: NT
old 18:        :sDomain := upper('&&3');
new 18:        :sDomain := upper('NT');
Enter value for 4: CYSOFT2
old 19:         :sSapSid := upper('&&4');
new 19:         :sSapSid := upper('CYSOFT2');
old 21:         :sSapSid := upper('&&3');
new 21:         :sSapSid := upper('NT');
old 37:     :sSchema := upper('&&1');
new 37:     :sSchema := upper('SAPSR3');
old 39:     if upper('&&2') = 'NT' then
new 39:     if upper('SAPSR3') = 'NT' then
old 46:       :sDomain := upper('&&3');
new 46:       :sDomain := upper('NT');
old 47:       :sSapSid := upper('&&4');
new 47:       :sSapSid := upper('CYSOFT2');
old 49:       :sSapSid := upper('&&3');
new 49:       :sSapSid := upper('NT');
using following Parameters:
. Oracle Version:                     10.2.0.2.0
. Parametervalue os_authent_prefix:   OPS$
. Schema Id:                          SR3
. Database User (Schema):             SAPSR3
. SAP R/3 Administrator:              OPS$NTADM
. SAP R/3 Serviceuser:                OPS$SAPSERVICENT
Connected.
Connected.
Disconnected from Oracle Database 10g Enterprise Edition Release 10.2.0.2.0 - Pr
oduction
With the Partitioning, OLAP and Data Mining options
Now after running scripts below are 3 users created.
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USERNAME
OPS$CYSOFT52\EC6ADM
<b>OPS$SAPSERVICENT</b>
OPS$CYSOFT52\SAPSERVICEEC6
<b>OPS$ORAEC6
OPS$NTADM</b>OPS$CYSOFT52\SAPSERVICESR3
SYS
SYSTEM
SAPSR3
SAPSR3DB
OUTLN
USERNAME
DIP
TSMSYS
DBSNMP
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System Copy and Logical system name conversion

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Can any one let me know some inputs over these few queries.
1. How much time would a 500+GB clients take for Export and reimport after the system copy.
2. What would be run time of the BDLSS report ( Converting the logical system names) for a typical 1500 GB QTY system
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br
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SQL 2005 and Database Refreshes

We have 2 NW2004S systems both with ABAP+Java. When we copy one database over from one system (A) to another (B), we've noticed that the schema attached to all of the tables in on the B system are now A.
Using the SQL Tools application from SAP, we were able to fix the ABAP tables, but are unsure as to how to convert Java Tables from A back to B. As a result of this database copy, the Java instance (including configtool) won't start.
Re-installing the Java DB instance did correct the DB schema error, and configtool did run as a result, although the Java CI failed to load.
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The last line is the script is what you need to change with appropriate database IDs. Look for <tags> to replace appropriately.
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++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
use <NEWDB_SID>
go
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go
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declare @object      sysname
declare @object_full     nvarchar(999)
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set @newid_uid = user_id(@newid)
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++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Homogeneous system copy using database specific tools

My enviroment is ECC6/Oracle 10.2.0.2/Solaris 10
I'm attempting my first system copy (central instance ABAP) using database specific tools from my PRD to my QAS system
in the source system I ran sapinst and proceed as follows
Execution of Service SAP ERP 6.0 SR3 > Software Life-cycle options > system copy > oracle > source system export >
central system > based on AS ABAP ? Database Instance Export
The export creates two folders and an file ie ABAP, JAVA & LABELIDX.
The folder ABAP is empty while JAVA has three files.see details below. I have a feeling something is not right ?
Kindly advice before I proceed with database offline backup and importation in the target system
*/oracle/INSTDIR/MIGRATION-CD/SYSCOPY*
*root@PRD#*
*root@PRD#*
*root@PRD#ls -l*
*total 6*
*drwxrwxr-x   2 root     sapinst      512 Jul 12 13:19 ABAP*
*drwxrwxr-x   2 root     sapinst      512 Jul 12 13:19 JAVA*
*-rw-rw-r--   1 root     sapinst       10 Jul 12 13:19 LABELIDX.ASC*
*root@PRD#*
*root@PRD#cd ABAP*
*root@PRD#ls -l*
*total 0*
*root@PRD#*
*root@PRD#cd ../JAVA*
*root@PRD#pwd*
*/oracle/INSTDIR/MIGRATION-CD/SYSCOPY/JAVA*
*root@PRD#ls -l*
*total 6*
*-rw-rw-r--   1 root     sapinst       19 Jul 12 13:19 LABEL.ASC*
-rw-r-----   1 root     sapinst       14 Jul 12 13:19 LABELIDX.ASC
-rw-r-----   1 root     sapinst      168 Jul 12 13:19 SOURCE.PROPERTIES
root@PRD#
root@PRD#
According to the system copy documents I've gone through I expect to see the following
in the export directory
=> structure with label files and source system information
=> database structure files (*.STR) for ABAP database objects
=> database statistics
=> Size calculation for the target database (*.EXT, DBSIZE.XML)
=> Archiving of the SDM
=> Archiving of application specific file system content
I get a dialog box message that the export has completed successfullu but only two phases were done ie
=> NW_export
=> Prepare To export Java

Thanks Mark
I'll proceed with the import & inform you about the outcome
My QAS system is the transport domain controller i.e. it hosts the transport directory /usr/sap/trans
What happens to pending transports after system copy ? Is there a way I can retain them or do I have to advice my users to complete pending requests so that I can import all of them before proceeding .
what happens to the CUA configurations in my 3 tier system landscape after I overwrite QAS ? I will make a note of all the RFC's & thier configuration details just incase I need to recreate them
Regards

Homogeous system copy for machine refreshment

Hello SAP expert,
I'd like to migrate our sap system() from power5 to power7, and the host name and the ip address will be kept unchanged on the power7 machine. We want to use homogeous system copy for db6 to migrate the sap system for testing. And after the testing, we want to just use db2 backup/restore to replace the database without system copy again. I know there are several steps in sapinst after db restore when I do a system copy, but the hostname, ip and user are unchanged, so I think there is no need to do a system copy again. Could someone help confirm that?
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Is those report very key? The ip, hostname, system user will keep unchanged and only the machine will be changed from AIX5 to AIX6, so after I do a whole homogeous system copy for the first time and all sap related files are already moved to the new machine, so the next time I want to restore the db with the backup taken on AIX5 to new machine directly without reinstall sap system, it will reserve some time and reduce the effort. Do you think if there is any problem if I do this? Thanks.

System copy and upgrade questions

dear gurus
i have one production box
R/3 version 4.6c
kernel 4.6D sp 1913
DB version Oracle 8.1.7.4.0
OS version Solaris 9
1st QUESTION
if i want to do system copy to new box
with
R/3 version 4.6c
kernel 4.6D sp 1913
DB version Oracle 8.1.7.4.0
OS version Solaris 10 (changed from solaris 9 to 10)
do i need to do homogenous system copy or heterogenous ?
is there any issues between 4.6c and solaris 10 ?
2nd question
if 1st question above is not possible, I want to do homogenous system copy with
R/3 version 4.6c
kernel 4.6D sp 1913
DB version Oracle 8.1.7.4.0
OS version Solaris 9
after that i will upgrade Oracle to 10 and SAP to ECC 6, is it possible to use ECC6 and Solaris 9 ? or do I need to upgrade to Solaris 10 ?
thanks

Hi AC thanks for your reply, anyway from other forum I got the answer already. please see quote below
but anyway i have another plan b that I need to ask.. just in case the new box is installed with Solaris 10
can you please let me know what is the best approach to do the upgrade, please if possible follow my approach in quote below
i have one production box
R/3 version 4.6c 64-bit
kernel 4.6D sp 1913
DB version Oracle 8.1.7.4.0 64-bit
OS version Solaris 9 64-bit
activities in new box
install Solaris 9 64-bit + patches
install Oracle 8.1.7.4.0 64-bit + patches
install R/3 version 4.6c 64-bit (with DB Load from dump from system copy, there is another option to move data file only)
update kernel to latest 4.6d before installing DB instance
upgrade Oracle 2 steps two Oracle 10 + patches
update kernel to 4.6dEX2 (in order to run with Oracle 10)
start SAP
upgrade to ECC6 sr2 + patches (sr2 because we dont want unicode, sr3 installation must be unicode)

System Copy and SOLMAN Key

Hi Gurus,
I just need clarification on this. I plan to build a new system using system copy menthod. Would I require a Key from Solution Manager for this new installation?
Appreciate your feedback.
Thanks,
SS

Hi
You'll need to install new license key after the system copy.
You must first delete all old licenses in tcode SAPLICENSE, then, request a new license at http://service.sap.com/licensekey
to do this you will also need a a new hardware key which helps in creating a new license key...
make sure you delete the system in the service market place and create a new system with the hardware key you get and then request the license.
Cheers,
Chaith

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We have installed EP6.0 SPS13 using Rapid installer 2.5 and now we want to 'system-copy' this. The system copy installation guide talks about getting the required DVDs ready. There is only two DVDs in RI2.5. Is it possible to system - copy a RI installation?
Thanks
Raj Balakrishnan

Hi Raj,
interesting question. In fact, the RI base /is/ a system copy itself. Anyhow, I would expect this to work, too.
Have you just tried it meanwhile? Any results?
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