System hangs under OS X 10.5.8 when using some applications

When looking up help on a Time Machine issue today, a 'fail to backup' notification from TM, the Help application hung, unresponsive. After failing to get Force Quit to work I did a hard restart.
I've recently installed the comprehensive OS X 10.5.8 update over the original 10.5.6 OS that came with the new iMac. I did this initially to overcome a problem with the iMac losing contact with the new BlueTooth mouse. The update has fixed the BlueTooth problem.
The issue of the machine hanging has occurred twice before when using other aps, in those cases a hard restart was necessary and in one case I had to unplug from power and wait 30 seconds before restarting the whole system. Certainly the Force Quit ap doesn't seem to be working very well and the iMacs inability to recover from hanging, unresponsive like this, is a real problem.
Nevertheless the machine is a pleasure to use, except when it buggers up in the middle of my trying to write a story.
My system is a 24" iMac 2.66GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, bought this month, Aug 2009.
Bluetooth mouse, new external 1 terrabyte LaCie HD for Time Machine backups, current OS 10.5.8.

Dear MacBook lover,
I will try the new 'account option' if the machine doesn't settle down.
There is another option, to wait until I install Snow Leopard later this week.
This could clear up any issues, but maybe create others?
I also feel that when I migrated all my stuff from my G4 power PC to the iMac that some of the old software could be causing problems - power pc/intel issues? I am keeping a log of any weird events to try and track the problem down.
Meanwhile I can still work on the new iMac, its a pleasure to use.
Have fun in Singapore,
Cheers
Barrie

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