System refresh - SMQ1 and RSA7
Could someone please explain what I should do with SMQ1 and RSA7 after a system copy?
I assume I would delete all queues which are pointing to old sid.?
thanks
Jexun Wikdfire
Hi,
SMQ1 : outbound queue for qRFC Monitor. this transaction is used to monitor the status of the LUWs in the outbound queue and restart any hanging queues manually.
For the details please see the link below..
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw2004s/helpdata/en/76/e12041c877f623e10000000a155106/frameset.htm
RSA7: In R3 it's show the delta queues for all data sources in the same source system.
For like Data sources in R/3 will have their delta queues in R/3 and hence these will be displayed in RSA7 in R/3.
The main purpose to use RSA7 is to maintain the BW delta queue, it will generally show the status and the data source having the delta mode active .
You have to first check the data source in the delta mode which are not getting populated in the RSA7 t-code .
Check the following link for the details..
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/6f/66bca6ae43744283d74f1e456ff6c0/content.htm
Regards
Bhuban
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hi,
I have few delta queues running very fine in system.But I am bit
confused about tcodes smq1 and rsa7.If i am not wrong after running all jobs
( i.e. fetching data into BW ) entries in quesue must show 0.But it is not happening.
When will they become 0 or they never show as zero.
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Prasanna N.HI,
If it is production system before upgrade get an outage of about 20 to 30 min and run Collective run jobs and move the delta queues from LBWQ to RSA7 and then to BI. As you are pulling the deltas during outage no posting will be there and you can leave the system for basis for outage.
It is mandatory to clean up the queues before giving the system for upgrade as during upgarde there may be possibility of queues being corrupted saying change in structures and it may raise issues during upgrade open queues are available.
Hence clean up the queue during outage ie lock all users for posting and do the activities.
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We all know that in R3 systems and for LO Cookpit applications, SMQ1 can display outbound queue which usually contains the updated records on R3 systems for LO Cookpit application data and then after scheduled V3 job, these updated records on R3 systems can be moved from the outbound queue (SMQ1) to Delta queue (RSA7) and wait for BW Delta extraction.
However in CRM systems, there should be no such scheduled V3 job, does that mean SMQ1 = RSA7 in CRM systems, or in other words, both T-Codes or the Outbound queue (SMQ1) and the Delta queue (RSA7) show the same updated records and wait for BW extraction?
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RSA7 will hold the delta records nothing but delta queue.But in SMQ1 is used to delete the entries(data) in the delta Queue.
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Hi Experts,
I would like to know the diffrence between client Export/Import and System refresh.
Actually i have done client export from our production system and imported it into our quality system, I have asked our functional consultants whether the production data is now available in Quality. They replied me saying whole data of production system is available in Quality system as off date i have copied the export.
The size of the export was around 8GB, How can this have all the data of Production system which is around 600 GB.
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What is system refresh when and why it is done?
The system refersh is nothing but the deletion of the client and replacing the data from other client. For example : you have clients 100, 200 and 300. Suppose when you want to refresh the client 100 you remove the client 100 and replace it with 200 0r 300 as per your reqiurement.
Mostly the refresh of clients will be happen at the time of development stage.
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The process to carry out the same is as follows:
1. Create a client on quality system using txn scc4
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Delta Setup/Link Broke After System Refresh in Sandbox with Prod
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We have done the System Refresh for Sandbox with Production in BW. After that, we tried to load 0FI_GL_4 Delta and it failed with 'Queue 0FI_GL_4 is not available in the Source System' in Monitor. It means something went wrong in System Refresh process and the Delta setup broke. The 'Status' traffic light for 0FI_GL_4 DataSource is in RED in 'BW Delta Queue Maintenance' (RSA7) in R/3 system. When I display this Status (Red traffic light) it says 'There are still no parameters available for the delta transfer'.
Since the Delta link broke, I have deleted the 0VENDOR_ATTR Master Data DataSource in RSA7 in R/3 and Initialized the Delta in BW for this 0VENDOR_ATTR and it completed successfully and now 0VENDOR_ATTR Master Data DataSource in RSA7 in R/3 is in GREEN.
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Cheers,
Kedar -
Does any body have a clear explanation for the system refresh activity.
and is System copy and refresh one and the same
if some one has steps please send them to me
thank uPavan ,
when you are performing the client copy you are coping the tables and indexes.
if your system have different patch level i way cause inconsistancy while client copy.
Please check this forun to clear the situation
Re: Error in Remote Client Copy
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Rishi Abrol -
System refresh - RSA7 is now empty.
Hi,
After a system refresh of all our QA systems, all delta queues in the source systems, are empty. Do we need to re-initialize them again? Did this on one of the datasources but the delta queue was still empty and ofcourse no records moved to the BW QA - 0 records and "green ligth". Did I miss to do something?
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BR
AHthanks for input - points awarded.
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System refresh of only ECC and not Portal and PI in MCOD
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Ajay> For info sake, from your experience how long does the export of a 500gb database take in sapinst?
SAP migrated their HR system (of several TB) on a weekend, however, this was highly tuned with lots of test runs in front. I can't say how long it takes, you have to do a run to see and to optimize.
> Usually in a db refresh, when i create the controlfiles, I replace the source <sid> with the the target <sid> in the control_file.sql (that I get from the trace in source system). After a DB refresh I just recreate the sapdba role, recreate the ops$ user for the specific target SID. Is it any different in case of MCOD?
This procedure does not work as soon as Java comes into place. If you copy a system with Java you must use sapinst. Java stores tons of information not in the database (as ABAP) but on the filesystem. Some of the information is synced on startup, some of them are only read on the filesystem.
Especially in case of a PI (which itself is very complex) this does not work.
In any case you would need to (after the full DB copy)
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but
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There is no other way of doing that copy and preserving the other system in an MCOD case, that's one reason why MCOD is no more recommended.
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Diff. between Client Refresh and System Refresh ?
Hi Gurus,
Can anyone tell me the difference between System Refresh and Client Refresh ??
Regards,
KalyanHai,
Check the below link.....
http://sap.ittoolbox.com/groups/technical-functional/sap-basis/difference-between-client-refresh-and-system-refresh-1838354?cv=expanded
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Export partner profiles and SM59 Entries before system refresh
Hello All,
How to Export partner profiles and SM59 Entries before system refresh in Netweaver
thanks
ShyamIn SDN search with name RFC export ..you will get so many answers ..
Once again please find the below prcoess for RFC export/import during system refresh.
RFC Export --
go to trans dir.. and then create .ctl file as below
#cd /usr/sap/trans/bin
#vi export_rfc_<sid>_<date>.ctl
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delete from rfcattrib
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delete from rfcdes
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select * from ZTCA_USER_LANG
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delete from rzllitab
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Differene between system copy and system refresh
Hi all
can you please tell me the difference among SYSTEM COPY,SYSTEM REFRESH and DB REFRESHI would consider them all the same. Maybe a "refresh" could be stated as "I restore a backup onto an already installed system" where as system copy means "I install a new system with a backup of another one" but mainly they all mean the same.
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HP2000 issues after doing system REFRESH and everytime it does UPDATES
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Hello xopixiegirlox,
Please call in and speak to a representative.
If you live in the US, contact HP Here.
If you are in another part of the world, start Here.
Please let me know if the rep was able to take care of your issues.
Good luck!
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Retain background jobs and its variants before system refresh activity
Hello All,
I am going to perform system refresh activity on quaity system on monday. Customer wants to retain the background jobs and its variants in the quality system. Please guide me and let me know the steps to retain the background jobs and its variants before starting the system refresh activity.
Regards
SubbuDear Subbu,
You have to export the TBT* Tables to retain the jobs. You can do this with R3trans:
1. Make Export file
2. Make Import file
3. Make Export in Q System before Systemcopy
4. Start Database and not SAP
5. Make Import in Q after Systemcopy
6. Start sap
1. Make Export file /tmp/export_cmd
export
file='/tmp/export_Q.dmp'
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delete from TBTCB
delete from TBTCCNTXT
delete from TBTCCTXTT
delete from TBTCCTXTTP
delete from TBTCI
delete from TBTCJCNTXT
delete from TBTCJSTEP
delete from TBTCO
delete from TBTCO_V01
delete from TBTCP
delete from TBTCPV
delete from TBTCR
delete from TBTCS
delete from TBTC_SPOOLID
delete from BTCEVTJOB
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select * from TBTCB
select * from TBTCCNTXT
select * from TBTCCTXTT
select * from TBTCCTXTTP
select * from TBTCI
select * from TBTCJCNTXT
select * from TBTCJSTEP
select * from TBTCO
select * from TBTCO_V01
select * from TBTCP
select * from TBTCPV
select * from TBTCR
select * from TBTCS
select * from TBTC_SPOOLID
select * from BTCEVTJOB
2. Make Import file /tmp/import_cmd
import
file='/tmp/export_Q.dmp'
3. Make Export in Q System before Systemcopy
R3trans -w /tmp/Q_export.log /tmp/export_cmd
4. Start Database and not SAP
sqlplus "/as sysdba"
SQL> startup
or
startsap
stopsap r3
5. Make Import in Q after Systemcopy
R3trans -w /tmp/Q_import.log /tmp/import_cmd
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6. Start sap
startsap
Best regards
Willi Eimler -
Java Dispatcher Down but Server0 and SDM up after system refresh
Hello,
I have done system refresh from PRD to QAS of CRM system - dual stack.Once after the system refresh ABAP is up and running fine but Java is down (Only Dispatcher is down. Both SDM and Server0 are running fine).
I have followed Note 609603 - Problems with Multiple NICs and SAP J2EE Engine and have given the correct host name but the no luck..
std_dispatcher.out says the following error:
Cannot attach to the Message Server. Can't open port [3925] on host [<Source Host Name>/Source IP Address].
Could you please let me know if I need to do any changes in the Config tool?
Thanks,
SubbuHI,
IN DB restore the hostname of java system stored in profiles would be your PRD.
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