System Sudden Shut Down Problem

Hi there - not sure how to trouble shoot this so I thought I'd start here:
My system runs for a while and then will suddenly shut down by itself with no warning.... I cannot restart by pushing the power button unless I wait awhile.  (few mins)  Very strange, upon boot up the system does NOT go through a disk check or anything, boots up normally.
Somethings that seem to trigger the shutdown, use of websites with heavy flash components.. Mostly kids sites like disney etc...
I use Mozilla and the flash player is the latest greatest...
I know this is very vague but thought I'd throw it out to see where folks think I should start.
My 1st guess was an overheating prob..  I have a rear 80mm case fan the CPU fan and the power supply fan going full tilt...  No excessive dust issues clogging fins etc...
Any thoughts much appreciated!

Hi!Just a thought..
Supposly you have an msi main board you should have the "core center" utility which shows cpu/system/nb temp's. Additionaly you can adjust the fan speed with it.
Another point is that in the past sometimes my pc used to restart without a reason. A hardware explanation is that cpu is overheated or something else went wrong. But i realized that it happend because of software..And usually when trying to run specific programs.Maybe it was drivers,maybe something unwanted installed from "bad sites", anyway try to use system restore some days before the 17th of this month just to be sure.I mean you have a quite new psu and if something was going wrong with the heatsink of cpu it would have restarted earlier during boot.
Anyway the post is 3 days long and maybe you've already managed to solve your prob.

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