System won't install patches

simba!
everytime I check patch availabilty I'm told 1 patch is available / required
on selecting background update - I i just get a bar saying its updating ---
for days!
Probably due to some uncomplete action
Is there any other way force an update?

Personally I would only install using the base products, which are
inherently very solid, and for which documentation it also good
Maintenance also gets you additional GW benefits, specifically either the
current Mobile Server, or the forthcoming Data sync product, which are not
part of the base bundle but are entitlements to those on maintenance, for us
that additional elements makes maintenance a no brainer.
best of luck
Simon
>>> On 10 June 2010 at 17:46, in message
<[email protected]>,
KBOYLE<[email protected]> wrote:
> bob;1985755 Wrote:
>> thanks
>>
>> Its only been 45 days I think so I will open a request.
>>
>> I don't have a problem with buying maintenance but my manager has.
>> Lots of problems in the last 40 days or so - no fully working
>> installation.
>> This is my 6th attempt.
>>
>> So IMPOSSIBLE to put into production.
>>
>> I'm not sure what the power at be will want to do regards to
>> maintenance
>> You said there are known issue - yet we are expected to pay
>> maintennance for support and updates to broken software.
>>
>> My manager has suggested to go back to Novell for full credit "NOT FIT
>> FOR PURPOSE"
>>
> Hi Bob,
>
> Your experience and assessment of NOWS SBE is not that uncommon. Most
> of the issues are with the scripted install and the Simba GUI. The
> component products work pretty much as you would expect them to.
>
> If you selected NOWS SBE based, in part, on it's price but find the
> scripted install too restrictive or simply unworkable, do a manual
> install of the component products. This is permitted but undocumented.
>
> Maintenance is often a touchy topic. I agree, as a matter of principle,
> we shouldn't have to purchase maintenance to make the software work as
> advertised. But when it comes to NOWS SBE, I wouldn't be without it.
>
> These are -my- reasons:
>
>
> - Compared to the cost of maintenance on each of the component
> products, or the cost of maintenance on the full NOWS, the maintenance
> cost for NOWS SBE, IMO, is quite reasonable.
> - Maintenance entitles you to upgrades. With maintenance you will be
> able to install or upgrade to OES2-SP2/SLES10-SP3 as well as continue
> to receive all patches and future upgrades. Without maintenance, you
> get the base product (OES2-SP1/SLES10-SP2).
> - In situations like yours, where you seem to have hit a brick wall
> and have no way around it, opening a Service Request may be your only
> solution. With maintenance you can open as many SR's as you need.
> - With maintenance, I tend to get Novell Technical Support involved
> much sooner and waste less time trying to figure out what may have
> gone wrong. After all, if I'm paying for a service I may as well take
> advantage of it.
>
> NOWS SBE attempts to simplify the installation and management of the
> component products. If this doesn't work for you and you decide to
> install the component products manually, having maintenance could be a
> real benefit. I would go for the 24x7 support. The difference in cost is
> minimal and when my system is down the last thing I want to hear is that
> I am calling outside my support window and that I will have to call back
> tomorrow.
>
> I hope this helps.

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