SystemCopy DB2 LUW without sapinst ?

Hi,
it is possible to perform a systemcopy [ database - db6 ] without installing sap/using sapinst ?
With Oracle it is possible - sure you have to do some work after the restore -
So I couldn't find any useful hint to perform a systemcopy without usage of sapinst...
can anybody help me?

Thanks a lot for your answer.
@Paul:
R3LOAD is not our favourit so the system copy should be performed via redirect restore.
"628156 DB6: Cross-Platform System Copy using Backup/Restore" - did not solved my problem / I've to perform this system copy with sapinst too - see below:
2. Start a regular homogenenous system copy on the target system using R3SETUP or SAPINST as described in the respective homogeneous system copy guide (depending on your SAP release).
"511323 DB6: brdb6brt -Installing the latest redirected restore tool"
"867914 DB6: brdb6brt - Latest patch (currently 24)"
=> I don't understand how this tool could help me? By the way - it's already in use
"Chapter 9 of the Administration Guide:
http://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/f03d5fb8-b619-2b10-c383-c6d56872829e?quicklink=index&overridelayout=true"
Nice to know - really good but not really usable for this issue.
If I'll perform a redirect restore I have this to do in the way of the "normal" system copy - so start sapinst => [ sapinst will install the database ] and perform the redirect restore
"http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/data/library/techarticle/0308nesiem/0308nesiem.html"
I have read this article... not helpful
"You may also be interested in db2inidb
See note 594301" => interesting note - to speed up the backup procedure!
If you use Oracle - system copy - briefly:
1) source sap system - create restore script
2) target system - shutdown sap/oracle
3) tsm - target system should connect to source tsm [ to get the right backup ]
4) restore - without sapinst
5) create db-user/rights
6) start sap system + sm59, sm28 and so on
I don't have seen this for a db2 luw database ...
here I have to use sapinst - before I execute step 1)
thanks in advance for your help.

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Output of C:\j2sdk1.4.2_24-x64\bin\java.exe -classpath migmon.jar -showversion -Xmx1024m com.sap.inst.migmon.imp.ImportMonitor -sapinst is written to the logfile import_monitor.java.log.
WARNING 2010-02-18 10:12:44.790
Execution of the command "C:\j2sdk1.4.2_24-x64\bin\java.exe -classpath migmon.jar -showversion -Xmx1024m com.sap.inst.migmon.imp.ImportMonitor -sapinst" finished with return code 103. Output:
java version "1.4.2_24-rev"
Java(TM) Platform, Standard Edition for Business (build 1.4.2_24-rev-b06)
Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 1.4.2_24-rev-b06, mixed mode)
Import Monitor jobs: running 1, waiting 1, completed 73, failed 0, total 75.
Loading of 'SAPDFACT' import package: ERROR
Import Monitor jobs: running 0, waiting 1, completed 73, failed 1, total 75.
WARNING[E] 2010-02-18 10:12:44.790
CJS-30022 Program 'Migration Monitor' exits with error code 103. For details see log file(s) import_monitor.java.log, import_monitor.log.
ERROR 2010-02-18 10:12:44.790
FCO-00011 The step runMigrationMonitor with step key |NW_ABAP_OneHost|ind|ind|ind|ind|0|0|NW_Onehost_System|ind|ind|ind|ind|1|0|NW_CreateDBandLoad|ind|ind|ind|ind|10|0|NW_ABAP_Import_Dialog|ind|ind|ind|ind|5|0|NW_ABAP_Import|ind|ind|ind|ind|0|0|runMigrationMonitor was executed with status ERROR .
Looking into import_monitor.java.log i found that the problem is in dfact import.
I've looked into sapdfact.log and i found:
S:\usr\sap\DEV\SYS\exe\uc\NTAMD64\R3load.exe: START OF LOG: 20100218105045
S:\usr\sap\DEV\SYS\exe\uc\NTAMD64\R3load.exe: sccsid @(#) $Id: //bas/701_REL/src/R3ld/R3load/R3ldmain.c#8 $ SAP
S:\usr\sap\DEV\SYS\exe\uc\NTAMD64\R3load.exe: version R7.01/V1.4 [UNICODE]
Compiled Jan 28 2010 20:22:25
S:\usr\sap\DEV\SYS\exe\uc\NTAMD64\R3load.exe -i SAPDFACT.cmd -dbcodepage 4103 -l SAPDFACT.log -stop_on_error -loadprocedure fast LOAD:COMPRESS_ALL
(DB) INFO: connected to DB
(DB6) INFO: COMPRESS YES is set during table creation.
(DB6) DB2 9.5 automatic dictionary creation does not require an explicit REORG.
(DB6) Compression threshold is ignored.
(GSI) INFO: dbname   = "DEV                                                                                "
(GSI) INFO: vname    = "DB6                             "
(GSI) INFO: hostname = "UNKNOWN                                                         "
(GSI) INFO: sysname = "Windows NT"
(GSI) INFO: nodename = "SRVSAPDEV"
(GSI) INFO: release = "6.0"
(GSI) INFO: version = "6002 Service Pack 2"
(GSI) INFO: machine = "4x AMD64 Level 6 (Mod 26 Step 5)"
(DB) ERROR: DDL statement failed with SQL error
( ALTER TABLE "/BI0/E0PPM_VC1" DROP PRIMARY KEY )
(SQL error -539)
error message returned by dsql:
SQL0539N Table or nickname "SAPDEV./BI0/E0PPM_VC1" does not have a "PRIMARY" key. SQLSTATE=42888
(IMP) INFO: a failed DROP attempt is not necessarily a problem
(DB6) INFO: executing DDL statements for object /BI0/E0PPM_VC1 from external SQL file.
(DB) ERROR: DDL statement failed with SQL error
( CREATE TYPE 2 UNIQUE INDEX "/BI0/E0PPM_VC1~0" ON "/BI0/E0PPM_VC1"   ("KEY_0PPM_VC1T" ,   "KEY_0PPM_VC11" ,   "KEY_0PPM_VC1U" ,   "KEY_0PPM_VC1P" )   USING STOGROUP ___FAI PRIQTY 16   SECQTY 10240 FREEPAGE 0 PCTFREE 0   GBPCACHE CHANGED DEFINE NO   BUFFERPOOL BP3 COPY NO   PIECESIZE 2097152 K CLUSTER NOT PADDED )
(SQL error -7)
error message returned by dsql:
SQL0007N The character "_" following "" )   USING STOGROUP" is not valid. SQLSTATE=42601
(DB) INFO: disconnected from DB
S:\usr\sap\DEV\SYS\exe\uc\NTAMD64\R3load.exe: job finished with 1 error(s)
S:\usr\sap\DEV\SYS\exe\uc\NTAMD64\R3load.exe: END OF LOG: 20100218105045
So as you can see it seems that there's some syntax error in dfacl.log. The wrong SQL statement referred by sapdfact.log is
ind: /BI0/E0PPM_VC1~0
sql: CREATE TYPE 2 UNIQUE INDEX "/BI0/E0PPM_VC1~0" ON "/BI0/E0PPM_VC1"
("KEY_0PPM_VC1T" ,
"KEY_0PPM_VC11" ,
"KEY_0PPM_VC1U" ,
"KEY_0PPM_VC1P" )
USING STOGROUP ___FAI PRIQTY 16
SECQTY 10240 FREEPAGE 0 PCTFREE 0
GBPCACHE CHANGED DEFINE NO
BUFFERPOOL BP3 COPY NO
PIECESIZE 2097152 K CLUSTER NOT PADDED ;
|
ALTER TABLE "/BI0/E0PPM_VC1"
ADD PRIMARY KEY ("KEY_0PPM_VC1T",
"KEY_0PPM_VC11",
"KEY_0PPM_VC1U",
"KEY_0PPM_VC1P") ;
Am i missing something?
Data in referred tables (infocubes) isn't really important.
Is there a safe way to proceed?
Thanks in advance.
Regards
Simone Zaffalon

And this is the strange point: my source system is not a BI and my dataclasses .SQL files are not empty.
Me too i would expect that the files should be empty but instead they are full of object definitions.
For example i have APPL0.SQL that contains a list of all tables of ECC system, for example
tab: MAMT
sql:     CREATE TABLE "MAMT"
        ("MANDT" SAPDB6VARCHAR(000003)
        DEFAULT '000' NOT NULL,
        "MATNR" SAPDB6VARCHAR(000018)
        DEFAULT ' ' NOT NULL,
        "SPRAS" SAPDB6VARCHAR(000001)
        DEFAULT ' ' NOT NULL,
        "MEINH" SAPDB6VARCHAR(000003)
        DEFAULT ' ' NOT NULL,
        "MTXID" SAPDB6VARCHAR(000002)
        DEFAULT ' ' NOT NULL,
        "LFDNR" SAPDB6VARCHAR(000002)
        DEFAULT '00' NOT NULL,
        "MAKTM" SAPDB6VARCHAR(000040)
        DEFAULT ' ' NOT NULL)
        IN "&location&"
        INDEX IN "&locationI&"
        LONG IN "&locationL&"
      COMPRESS YES;
      ALTER TABLE "MAMT" LOCKSIZE ROW;
and like this for all others tables.
What would occur if i launch an import with such .SQL files?
(shuld i put this question to another thread or is fine for you to answer on this?)
Thank you again.
Simone Zaffalon

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