T410 Slow to boot when second HDD is in Ultrabay

Hi
I have a T410 with 80 GB SSD in the main drive for my OS.
I also have a second harddrive WD 750GB Scorpio Blue in the Ultrabay for data.
I am using the genuine ultrabay adapter (ThinkPad Serial ATA Hard Drive Bay Adapter Part 43N3412).
When I swap in DVD in the ultray bay, boot time is very fast.
When I have second HDD in the ultra bay, boot time is exceedingly slow, with the windows symbol pulsing for several minutes before allowing me to log on.
Is there a setting I should make in BIOS to ignore the second HDD on startup?
TIA
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Was using the T410 with the factory installed HDD in the ultrabay but works fine.
Hmmm ... When in BIOS, is the BIOS reporting the 2nd HDD correctly?
Got antivirus installed? I'm just taking a stab in the dark here however is it possible that the antivirus is scanning the 2nd drive when its booting into Windows?
*Non Lenovo employee*
I have a Y2P (i5) ... Feel free to ping me if you want me to test some applications with your Y2P if you have the same model. I don't mind keep doing recovery on it if needed .... =)

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